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The issue though is that the UK spends something along the lines of £10-25bn (depending how you count subsidies) a year on renewable. Something like £10bn in di
by martinald 6mo ago
The issue though is that the UK spends something along the lines of £10-25bn (depending how you count subsidies) a year on renewable. Something like £10bn in direct subsidies via CfD and RO, then another ~£1.5-2bn on curtailment (paying wind farms to turn off), ~£3bn in balancing market costs, and £6bn on transmission upgrade costs (passed back to consumers/businesses) to upgrade transmission for nearly always renewable projects. There's actually a lot of others I think you could attribute to renewables but I could spend all day writing about this.
My guess is that £20bn/year is a fair cost overall in subsidy payments. This is clearly not offset by natural gas fuel savings even with elevated prices.
The UK IMO made a couple of critical mistakes. Firstly, far too much offshore wind is in Scotland when it should have been closer to population centres in England. A few factors for this but the issue is planning is devolved to Scotland (so they have every incentive to approve as many) but energy subsidies are set by Westminster. By the time UK central government realised this it was too late (or they didn't want to rock the cart for political reasons post/during Scottish independence referendum).
We're now having to pay £20-30bn+ to get Scottish wind generation down to England where it is needed (primarily through new 5 (!) 2GW HVDCs from Scotland to England). It would have been far far better just to... build those wind farms closer to England. This would have still required grid upgrades but far cheaper ones (bringing it 100-200km to population centres instead of all the way from Scotland, plus you still need to do the ones in England on top of that for the most part to get it from the HVDC landing sites to the population centres).
The second major issue is there is definitely massive diminishing returns from adding more renewables at this point. There's too many renewables on the grid a lot of the time, even if transmission was perfect - supply is outstripping demand. Instead of building more and more generation the subsidies should be redirected towards storage projects.
But overall, for the same £20bn a year you could have probably built 5 Hinckley Point C sized 3.2GW nuclear plants concurrently (assuming £4bn a year capex for 10 years). In 20 years you'd have probably 30GW of nuclear built, which should cover nearly all electricity demand in the UK in that time, with very limited transmission costs (existing nuclear plants have good grid connections and you build them close to them). And importantly, you would basically eliminate _any_ dependence on gas from the UK grid. Clearly nuclear has risks in project delivery, but at least it's reliable once built.
- ndr42 6mo agoWhy replace oil dependency with uranium dependency (presumably from Russia)? Costs are not the only consideration.
- 0cf8612b2e1e 6mo agoAustralia has the world’s largest uranium reserves. Many European countries have their own supply and could produce it if they desired to be self sufficient.
- martinald 6mo agoAustralia and Canada have enormous uranium deposits. We're not going to have an entirely British energy supply chain (solar panels are mostly from China, etc). And it's a relatively small amount of mass to ship - perhaps 500 tonnes of yellowcake for a reactors' yearly requirement.
- alephnerd 6mo ago> build those wind farms closer to England How? The issue is local NIMBYs [0], anti-industry environmentalists [1], far left leaning groups [2], and even the fishing lobby [3] all attempt to obstruct wind farm expansion and make it difficult for moderates in Labour to actually execute on building energy independence for the UK. Of course, this is also being amplified by information warfare by opponents to the UK [4][5], as can be seen by the social media campaign against offshore wind farms in the Isle of Man [6]. Frankly, the UK needs to internalize Fiona Hill's [7] position and start cracking down on fifth columnists like Farage, Corbyn, and their acolytes. [0] - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r39el1ne0o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3r39el1ne0o [1] - https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26000069.rejection-200m-turbine-bid-near-loch-ness-hailed-campaigners/ https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26000069.rejection-200m-... [2] - https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/labour-versus-wind-farm-resistance-who-are-the-true-environmentalists-times-earth-ctg87zzlx https://www.thetimes.com/uk/environment/article/labour-versu... [3] - https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-of-shetland-wind-farm/ https://fishingnews.co.uk/news/developer-pulls-out-of-east-o... [4] - https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/18/uk-politics-constantly-suffering-from-online-disinformation-says-labour-mp-emily-thornberry https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jan/18/uk-politics... [5] - https://www.thetimes.com/uk/social-media/article/iran-war-fake-news-social-media-0zns35c9l https://www.thetimes.com/uk/social-media/article/iran-war-fa... [6] - https://www.facebook.com/61588338835208/ https://www.facebook.com/61588338835208/ [7] - https://xcancel.com/FrankRGardner/status/2027098560647348410 https://xcancel.com/FrankRGardner/status/2027098560647348410