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Chill, not everything has to be political on HN. Edit: OP edited out the political message from their post

by illusive4080 6mo ago

ses1984 6mo ago
I strongly appreciate being able to see the thread without logging in (or ever visiting that site).
- ToucanLoucan 6mo ago
  Especially since without an account they won't even let you see replies anymore. This is excellent
- pessimizer 6mo ago
  There are only two big instances that work any more, everybody is aware of them including twitter, and they exist only because twitter allows them as a safety valve for upper middle class people who believe that political consumption is a thing that works. By the grace of Musk, a few thousand* 1) nerds who don't register on any invasive social media and 2) libs with the admirable self-control not to spend all day on twitter yelling about twitter, get a tiny trickle of nitter that can be cut off at will. Meanwhile, we're on ycombinator.com. Boycotting is not a thing that works under monopoly (especially with "free" products.) Monopolies boycott you. ----- [*] I'm making this up, it could literally be hundreds, not even thousands. I don't think nitter has a sane caching strategy, and if it were more than a few users the servers would catch on fire. Although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out that the last nitter instances were being run from "X" headquarters as a project to track and study individual behavior (When do nitter users join X? When people quit X, do they still use nitter? When do people who have X accounts use nitter to conceal what they're looking at? Which accounts are especially popular for nitter users? What are the political opinions and demographics of nitter users, etc...). Or instead of X, it could be feds doing the same thing. If so, they would have plenty of processor and the real user numbers could be tens or hundreds of thousands.
  - zamadatix 6mo ago
    It's not always as deep as a principled stance on a boycott, political consumption, monopolies, or the general politics of X/Twitter. Many of us never had a Twitter account either. The only time we've used the site is when someone shared a link and we tried to view it. It can be as simple as the idea of having to sign up for a site to see some link that has been shared is annoying and nitter (for now, for whatever the reasons of continued existence) is also a link to the same content without said annoyance.
nekusar 6mo ago
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- illusive4080 6mo ago
  I’m a conservative, not a nazi. You don’t need to be attacking people on this site. This isn’t Reddit.
  - sheikhnbake 6mo ago
    > a conservative, not a nazi who regurgitates pro-billionaire talking points and thinks the poor just need to lift themselves up by their bootstraps, with some christian persecution complex sprinkled in You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself
    - illusive4080 6mo ago
      You’re projecting that on me. All I’m saying is this isn’t Reddit; HN is for civil discourse.
      - sheikhnbake 6mo ago
        It's not projecting when it's based directly on your comment history. I used to spout the same things about two decades ago. Hopefully you wise up at some point.
        illusive4080 6mo ago
        Condescending dismissal of others based on a quick comment sleuthing is not a good behavior on HN. Take care.
        sheikhnbake 6mo ago
        The dismissal is based on decades of lived experience and seeing the same things over and over again. You aren't attempting to engage in good faith and clearly aren't interested in discussing anything more in-depth so my dismissal seems to be well placed.
xigoi 6mo ago
A link that allows you to actually read the content has nothing to do with politics.
- illusive4080 6mo ago
  The poster edited their post. Originally there was a political message in it.
  - hagbard_c 6mo ago
    It seems to be there still unless you don't count his expression of severe MDS to be political. I run my own bitter instance which mostly works although it has to be restarted frequently due to it claiming to be 'out of tokens'.

Chill, not everything has to be political on HN. Edit: OP edited out the political message from their post

ses1984 6mo ago

I strongly appreciate being able to see the thread without logging in (or ever visiting that site).

ToucanLoucan 6mo ago
Especially since without an account they won't even let you see replies anymore. This is excellent
pessimizer 6mo ago
There are only two big instances that work any more, everybody is aware of them including twitter, and they exist only because twitter allows them as a safety valve for upper middle class people who believe that political consumption is a thing that works. By the grace of Musk, a few thousand* 1) nerds who don't register on any invasive social media and 2) libs with the admirable self-control not to spend all day on twitter yelling about twitter, get a tiny trickle of nitter that can be cut off at will. Meanwhile, we're on ycombinator.com. Boycotting is not a thing that works under monopoly (especially with "free" products.) Monopolies boycott you. ----- [*] I'm making this up, it could literally be hundreds, not even thousands. I don't think nitter has a sane caching strategy, and if it were more than a few users the servers would catch on fire. Although I wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out that the last nitter instances were being run from "X" headquarters as a project to track and study individual behavior (When do nitter users join X? When people quit X, do they still use nitter? When do people who have X accounts use nitter to conceal what they're looking at? Which accounts are especially popular for nitter users? What are the political opinions and demographics of nitter users, etc...). Or instead of X, it could be feds doing the same thing. If so, they would have plenty of processor and the real user numbers could be tens or hundreds of thousands.
- zamadatix 6mo ago
  It's not always as deep as a principled stance on a boycott, political consumption, monopolies, or the general politics of X/Twitter. Many of us never had a Twitter account either. The only time we've used the site is when someone shared a link and we tried to view it. It can be as simple as the idea of having to sign up for a site to see some link that has been shared is annoying and nitter (for now, for whatever the reasons of continued existence) is also a link to the same content without said annoyance.

nekusar 6mo ago

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illusive4080 6mo ago
I’m a conservative, not a nazi. You don’t need to be attacking people on this site. This isn’t Reddit.
- sheikhnbake 6mo ago
  > a conservative, not a nazi who regurgitates pro-billionaire talking points and thinks the poor just need to lift themselves up by their bootstraps, with some christian persecution complex sprinkled in You aren't fooling anyone, except maybe yourself
  - illusive4080 6mo ago
    You’re projecting that on me. All I’m saying is this isn’t Reddit; HN is for civil discourse.
    - sheikhnbake 6mo ago
      It's not projecting when it's based directly on your comment history. I used to spout the same things about two decades ago. Hopefully you wise up at some point.
      - illusive4080 6mo ago
        Condescending dismissal of others based on a quick comment sleuthing is not a good behavior on HN. Take care.
        sheikhnbake 6mo ago
        The dismissal is based on decades of lived experience and seeing the same things over and over again. You aren't attempting to engage in good faith and clearly aren't interested in discussing anything more in-depth so my dismissal seems to be well placed.

xigoi 6mo ago

A link that allows you to actually read the content has nothing to do with politics.

illusive4080 6mo ago
The poster edited their post. Originally there was a political message in it.
- hagbard_c 6mo ago
  It seems to be there still unless you don't count his expression of severe MDS to be political. I run my own bitter instance which mostly works although it has to be restarted frequently due to it claiming to be 'out of tokens'.