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We've officially come full circle https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224

ryangittins 7mo ago
Hah, wow. A post with an ID under 10k. Meanwhile this one is over 47M. I didn't realize I've been reading HN nearly its whole existence. For all my complaining about what's happened to the internet since those days, HN has managed to stay high quality without compromising.
- bitexploder 7mo ago
  At least, here the biases are well known. I have been here since the beginning as well. :)
- giarc 7mo ago
  I think a big reason is you are not notified when someone replies to your comment. It reduces heated back and forth arguments.
  - ryangittins 7mo ago
    Interesting, I hadn't considered that! You're probably right.
  - Xeoncross 7mo ago
    Instead, the reply/rebuttal almost always comes from a new person. It makes nice reading when you have 6 people in an argument keeping each other honest vs 2.
  - Tade0 7mo ago
    Also submissions with more comments than upvotes are looked into, if not outright automatically flagged.
PunchyHamster 7mo ago
this is cloud to different cloud thing not physical to cloud thing tho
bitexploder 7mo ago
Every so often someone is like, Dropbox isn’t that hard. Look at this amazing ZFS/whatever! So simple. Yeah, I keep paying Dropbox every year so I don’t have to think about it. I shoot a sync off to backblaze every once in a while.
- toomuchtodo 7mo ago
  I love Dropbox, I pay annually. I use the open source client https://maestral.app/ https://maestral.app/ on the Mac for workstation use, but also integrate other systems with my Dropbox account using their API. If someone built an open source Dropbox server that sat on top of S3 compatible storage, I would not only use it, but pay to have that optionality to get out of Dropbox if they ever enshittify. I can recognize form and function worth paying for ("value"), but still want an exit plan. It's not about the spend, it is about data sovereignty. This is colloquially referred to as “vendor and third party risk management.”
  - p_stuart82 7mo ago
    lol if your data sovereignty still depends on someone else's control plane, it isn't sovereignty. same landlord. lower in the stack
    - toomuchtodo 7mo ago
      I keep multiple copies across systems. (25+ years in tech, ymmv)
- encom 7mo ago
  I dislike Dropbox for reasons that aren't technical, but the big thing for me is that I want either E2EE, or control/ownership of where my data is stored. These are my personal files (no, not that kind of personal), I'm not just going to scatter them on the internet. My solution so far has been NextCloud, but I'm getting pretty fed up with it. But not enough to actually do anything about it... yet.
  - 7mo ago
freedomben 7mo ago
at the risk of a comment that doesn't age well, for most people on HN I would definitely look into just using rclone. I also has a GUI for people who want that. rclone is mind-blowingly good. You can set up client-side encryption (so object storage never sees the data or even the filename) to be seamless. I'm a huge fan
giancarlostoro 7mo ago
To be fair, I can't remember the last time I needed Dropbox or Google Drive, but I do use iCloud, since it comes with plenty of storage for my family plan. I don't send anyone files like back in the day where people would send me a Dropbox link and I'd send them one back.

Hah, wow. A post with an ID under 10k. Meanwhile this one is over 47M. I didn't realize I've been reading HN nearly its whole existence. For all my complaining about what's happened to the internet since those days, HN has managed to stay high quality without compromising.

bitexploder 7mo ago
At least, here the biases are well known. I have been here since the beginning as well. :)
giarc 7mo ago
I think a big reason is you are not notified when someone replies to your comment. It reduces heated back and forth arguments.
- ryangittins 7mo ago
  Interesting, I hadn't considered that! You're probably right.
- Xeoncross 7mo ago
  Instead, the reply/rebuttal almost always comes from a new person. It makes nice reading when you have 6 people in an argument keeping each other honest vs 2.
- Tade0 7mo ago
  Also submissions with more comments than upvotes are looked into, if not outright automatically flagged.

PunchyHamster 7mo ago

this is cloud to different cloud thing not physical to cloud thing tho

bitexploder 7mo ago

Every so often someone is like, Dropbox isn’t that hard. Look at this amazing ZFS/whatever! So simple. Yeah, I keep paying Dropbox every year so I don’t have to think about it. I shoot a sync off to backblaze every once in a while.

toomuchtodo 7mo ago
I love Dropbox, I pay annually. I use the open source client https://maestral.app/ https://maestral.app/ on the Mac for workstation use, but also integrate other systems with my Dropbox account using their API. If someone built an open source Dropbox server that sat on top of S3 compatible storage, I would not only use it, but pay to have that optionality to get out of Dropbox if they ever enshittify. I can recognize form and function worth paying for ("value"), but still want an exit plan. It's not about the spend, it is about data sovereignty. This is colloquially referred to as “vendor and third party risk management.”
- p_stuart82 7mo ago
  lol if your data sovereignty still depends on someone else's control plane, it isn't sovereignty. same landlord. lower in the stack
  - toomuchtodo 7mo ago
    I keep multiple copies across systems. (25+ years in tech, ymmv)
encom 7mo ago
I dislike Dropbox for reasons that aren't technical, but the big thing for me is that I want either E2EE, or control/ownership of where my data is stored. These are my personal files (no, not that kind of personal), I'm not just going to scatter them on the internet. My solution so far has been NextCloud, but I'm getting pretty fed up with it. But not enough to actually do anything about it... yet.
- 7mo ago

freedomben 7mo ago

at the risk of a comment that doesn't age well, for most people on HN I would definitely look into just using rclone. I also has a GUI for people who want that. rclone is mind-blowingly good. You can set up client-side encryption (so object storage never sees the data or even the filename) to be seamless. I'm a huge fan

giancarlostoro 7mo ago

To be fair, I can't remember the last time I needed Dropbox or Google Drive, but I do use iCloud, since it comes with plenty of storage for my family plan. I don't send anyone files like back in the day where people would send me a Dropbox link and I'd send them one back.