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Is there any evidence supporting the claim there is a significant overlap between the group of people who "refuse injections the government recommends" and the
by fp64 6mo ago
Is there any evidence supporting the claim there is a significant overlap between the group of people who "refuse injections the government recommends" and the group of people who take "peptides"? The article is carefully crafted to evoke this impression without clearly stating it, listing only anecdotal evidence.
- steveBK123 6mo agoRFK Jr using the blue dye stuff for one thing
- spacewrangler 6mo agoHow?
- oa335 6mo ago“Blue dye stuff” meaning methylene blue? Ironically that is one of the most extensively studied compounds in medicine, with hundreds of clinical trials over 100 years…
- staticassertion 6mo agoThat doesn't support the claim that people who take peptides are anti-establishment.
- fireflash38 6mo agoI imagine the entire Joe Rogan sphere with being anti vax (or vax skeptical)... While promoting a billion supplements.
- spacewrangler 6mo ago*anti untested vaccines - people should be skeptical of untested vaccines, just like peptides.
- mft_ 6mo agoIndeed, but that’s not the point: many anti-vaxxers are against all vaccines, irrespective of how they were tested. (And will argue against e.g. the FRA approvals.)
- kelipso 6mo agoBut you confuse that set of people with people who don’t know want to inject untested vaccines into their body.
- mft_ 6mo ago(I don’t) I’m genuinely not aware of a DIY or grey market in vaccines. Peptides, yes, but vaccines? In the absence of this, I suspect you’re either confused or straw-manning…
- kelipso 6mo agoI was referring to the MRNA vaccines, which were relatively untested when released to the public. Suspicion of that is very reasonable.
- mft_ 6mo agoOkay; noting that the argument has moved from "untested" to "relatively untested". To clarify, is your concern the inadequacy of the approval process FDA uses for (all) vaccines (noting that many vaccines --e.g. influenza-- are refreshed on a fairly regular basis to account for new strains of viruses) or something specific to approval of the MRNA vaccines? Or is it that MRNA vaccines were a new approach for vaccines more generally, and so there wasn't/isn't the same long-term data that there was/is for multiple generations of vaccines based on older technologies (viral vector, toxoid, etc.)?
- kelipso 6mo agoUntested is always relative. And the second, but what’s your point?