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both wars are equally unjustified, but the US has lost what, <20 people by now, in over a month? Putin loses >20 people per hour of his war.
by b65e8bee43c2ed0 6mo ago
both wars are equally unjustified, but the US has lost what, <20 people by now, in over a month? Putin loses >20 people per hour of his war.
- OwlsParlay 6mo agoTrump has avoided a ground invasion up to this point for this exact reason, even trying to take one of outerlying islands would have heavy casualties due to drone warfare. There's speculation that the mess over the weekend was the result of a SOF mission gone wrong.
- matusp 6mo agoRussia is actually gaining people in this war. The occupied territory they intend to keep has a prewar population of 10M.
- krige 6mo agoThat would be true if they were keeping the native population there alive. We know they were importing presumably loyal people from deep Russia. What happened to original occupants? You can guess.
- TiredOfLife 6mo agoThe mass graves they are making in occupied territories say otherwise.
- stavros 6mo agoI'd say "I agree, the US should lose more people" but I wouldn't wish casualties on anyone. Still, the fact that the US can kill people without any cost because they send drones to do it doesn't sit well with me at all.
- pjc50 6mo agoIn fairness, Iran has also been conducting its campaign with missiles and the Shahed drones. The Iran-Israel war has killed a lot of people who are neither Iranian nor Israeli but happen to live in Palestine or Lebanon.
- stavros 6mo agoYeah I don't really like having to defend Iran, so I don't know what to tell you. Nobody in this is right.
- cineticdaffodil 6mo agoThe world os wrong because its sliding back into the rule of the strong from the before times.
- SanjayMehta 6mo ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> Russia exchanges 20+ bodies for each received from The Ukraine Source?
- rainworld 6mo agohttps://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-000-fallen-soldiers/ https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-... 1000 Ukrainians for 38 Russians. Such exchanges with similarly lopsided ratios happen every couple weeks.
- gambiting 6mo agoMaybe it's simply because Ukrainians aren't killing Russians within territory they control, so they don't have as many bodies to exchange. Looking at body exchanges to determine the number of dead people on either side seems just...like a weird metric?
- kelipso 6mo agoIt’s a reasonable metric but it should be evaluated based on what’s happening on the ground. For example, if Russia is advancing and Ukraine is retreating, and KIA is same in each side, then Russia would pick up many more bodies to exchange than Ukraine.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agohttps://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI https://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI
- JumpCrisscross 6mo agoArticle says "Russia is likely handing over more bodies than it receives since its troops have captured more Ukrainian bodies than vice versa, since they have been on the offensive for most of the war." That could be bullshit. But it holds water as a hypothesis. If Ukraine were suffering 20:1 casualty ratios against itself on the field, Russia would have won already. There are no weapons that can overcome a small belligerent losing more bodies than the larger one.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> the US has lost what, <20 people by now, in over a month? Putin loses >20 people per hour of his war Not sure why you're being downvoted. Russia's economy and military have been flogged by their war in a way America's has not. Moreover, we have midterms this year and a Presidential election in 2. Moscow has no similar 'fuck it' exit option.
- mikkupikku 6mo agoThe American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries. The longer this war continues the worse it will get. Nonetheless, the American people themselves are mostly safe at home, the precedent for Iran launching any sort of attacks against the American homeland is basically nonexistent. Even sending terror cells, you'd think Iran would be on this for how often their western critics accuse them of funding terrorism, but in America? Crickets. This war is bullshit.
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries No, we're not. It's bad. But it's nothing compared to Russia.
- mikkupikku 6mo agoNot as bad as Russia... damning with faint praise, aren't we?
- JumpCrisscross 6mo ago> damning with faint praise, aren't we? No. I'm calling out bullshit. If someone says Bob is a terrorist, and I say no, Bob is not a terrorist, I'm not damning Bob "with faint praise" by calling out a nonsense comparison. There is plenty bad America is doing and threatening in this war. We don't need word games to discuss them adultly.
- SanjayMehta 6mo ago
- TiredOfLife 6mo agoUkraine didn't sponsor terrorist organizations around the world.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agohttps://www.cnbctv18.com/india/nia-arrests-us-citizen-matthew-aaron-vandyke-six-ukrainians-anti-india-drone-warfare-training-network-in-myanmar-ws-l-19871344.htm https://www.cnbctv18.com/india/nia-arrests-us-citizen-matthe... Also: Azov battalion.
- TiredOfLife 6mo ago> Azov battalion Was a direct result of russian invasion in 2014. Also not a government sponsored terrorist organization.
- SanjayMehta 6mo agoInspired by Stepan Bandera's memory. He was a prominent collaborator during ww-2.