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The US really pulled a Russia with this "special military operation".
by stavros 7mo ago
The US really pulled a Russia with this "special military operation".
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 7mo agoboth wars are equally unjustified, but the US has lost what, <20 people by now, in over a month? Putin loses >20 people per hour of his war.
- OwlsParlay 7mo agoTrump has avoided a ground invasion up to this point for this exact reason, even trying to take one of outerlying islands would have heavy casualties due to drone warfare. There's speculation that the mess over the weekend was the result of a SOF mission gone wrong.
- matusp 7mo agoRussia is actually gaining people in this war. The occupied territory they intend to keep has a prewar population of 10M.
- krige 7mo agoThat would be true if they were keeping the native population there alive. We know they were importing presumably loyal people from deep Russia. What happened to original occupants? You can guess.
- TiredOfLife 7mo agoThe mass graves they are making in occupied territories say otherwise.
- stavros 7mo agoI'd say "I agree, the US should lose more people" but I wouldn't wish casualties on anyone. Still, the fact that the US can kill people without any cost because they send drones to do it doesn't sit well with me at all.
- pjc50 7mo agoIn fairness, Iran has also been conducting its campaign with missiles and the Shahed drones. The Iran-Israel war has killed a lot of people who are neither Iranian nor Israeli but happen to live in Palestine or Lebanon.
- stavros 7mo agoYeah I don't really like having to defend Iran, so I don't know what to tell you. Nobody in this is right.
- cineticdaffodil 7mo agoThe world os wrong because its sliding back into the rule of the strong from the before times.
- SanjayMehta 7mo ago[flagged]
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> Russia exchanges 20+ bodies for each received from The Ukraine Source?
- rainworld 7mo agohttps://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-000-fallen-soldiers/ https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-repatriates-bodies-of-1-... 1000 Ukrainians for 38 Russians. Such exchanges with similarly lopsided ratios happen every couple weeks.
- gambiting 7mo agoMaybe it's simply because Ukrainians aren't killing Russians within territory they control, so they don't have as many bodies to exchange. Looking at body exchanges to determine the number of dead people on either side seems just...like a weird metric?
- kelipso 7mo agoIt’s a reasonable metric but it should be evaluated based on what’s happening on the ground. For example, if Russia is advancing and Ukraine is retreating, and KIA is same in each side, then Russia would pick up many more bodies to exchange than Ukraine.
- SanjayMehta 7mo agohttps://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI https://youtu.be/iWpEOvQmCMI
- JumpCrisscross 7mo agoArticle says "Russia is likely handing over more bodies than it receives since its troops have captured more Ukrainian bodies than vice versa, since they have been on the offensive for most of the war." That could be bullshit. But it holds water as a hypothesis. If Ukraine were suffering 20:1 casualty ratios against itself on the field, Russia would have won already. There are no weapons that can overcome a small belligerent losing more bodies than the larger one.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> the US has lost what, <20 people by now, in over a month? Putin loses >20 people per hour of his war Not sure why you're being downvoted. Russia's economy and military have been flogged by their war in a way America's has not. Moreover, we have midterms this year and a Presidential election in 2. Moscow has no similar 'fuck it' exit option.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoThe American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries. The longer this war continues the worse it will get. Nonetheless, the American people themselves are mostly safe at home, the precedent for Iran launching any sort of attacks against the American homeland is basically nonexistent. Even sending terror cells, you'd think Iran would be on this for how often their western critics accuse them of funding terrorism, but in America? Crickets. This war is bullshit.
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> American people are already getting flogged when they buy fuel and groceries No, we're not. It's bad. But it's nothing compared to Russia.
- mikkupikku 7mo agoNot as bad as Russia... damning with faint praise, aren't we?
- JumpCrisscross 7mo ago> damning with faint praise, aren't we? No. I'm calling out bullshit. If someone says Bob is a terrorist, and I say no, Bob is not a terrorist, I'm not damning Bob "with faint praise" by calling out a nonsense comparison. There is plenty bad America is doing and threatening in this war. We don't need word games to discuss them adultly.
- SanjayMehta 7mo ago
- TiredOfLife 7mo agoUkraine didn't sponsor terrorist organizations around the world.
- SanjayMehta 7mo agohttps://www.cnbctv18.com/india/nia-arrests-us-citizen-matthew-aaron-vandyke-six-ukrainians-anti-india-drone-warfare-training-network-in-myanmar-ws-l-19871344.htm https://www.cnbctv18.com/india/nia-arrests-us-citizen-matthe... Also: Azov battalion.
- TiredOfLife 7mo ago> Azov battalion Was a direct result of russian invasion in 2014. Also not a government sponsored terrorist organization.
- SanjayMehta 7mo agoInspired by Stepan Bandera's memory. He was a prominent collaborator during ww-2.
- cooloo 7mo agoExplain when war is justified? Anyone supposed to protect Iranian civilians or it is just no one care about them?
- mikkupikku 7mo agoAmerica is blowing up Iranian civilians and America's president is threatening a genocide.
- stavros 7mo agoHow lucky the US is, wherever they go to spread freedom, they find oil.