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Remember the part about all the free-as-in-beer stuff on the internet that people find really useful, and that wouldn't exist if not for ads? That stuff doesn'

Remember the part about all the free-as-in-beer stuff on the internet that people find really useful, and that wouldn't exist if not for ads? That stuff doesn't depend on Alphabet and Meta specifically. It depends on ads. No ads = no that stuff. Are you happy for it to all disappear?

oneeyedpigeon 7mo ago
What about all the free-as-in-beer stuff that doesn't depend on ads? Like, er, this site?
tonyedgecombe 7mo ago
It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.
- mcherm 7mo ago
  How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.
  - tonyedgecombe 7mo ago
    HN is a recruitment tool for Y Combinator. Someone is paying for it with their attention. Did you think they are running it out of the goodness of their heart?
  - greyface- 7mo ago
    HN regularly runs ads for YC companies. https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html
shiroiuma 7mo ago
For Meta specifically, what exactly would be so bad about all their stuff disappearing? I can't think of much. Messenger is the only thing of theirs that has any value as far as I can see, and there's many alternatives now.
- bookofjoe 7mo ago
  Demur. RayBan Meta and Oakley Meta glasses are fantastic devices.
  - Larrikin 7mo ago
    I'd rather have five or ten smaller competing companies getting various deals from the glasses manufacturers than a couple huge companies getting them all.
bluefirebrand 7mo ago
I wout be absolutely delighted for it to all disappear and for the internet to go back to being only for enthusiasts again
einsteinx2 7mo ago
Mostly because I don’t believe anything of value would actually be lost (note you provided no examples and I’m not sure any exist), that also sounds incredible. So again, how do we make this no-ads paradise happen?
sunaookami 7mo ago
The internet worked before everything was plastered with ads.

oneeyedpigeon 7mo ago

What about all the free-as-in-beer stuff that doesn't depend on ads? Like, er, this site?

tonyedgecombe 7mo ago

It's not free, we pay for it with our attention. I'd rather pay with money.

mcherm 7mo ago
How does my attention, the time I spend reading news.ycombinator.com, pay for the site? I DON'T run an ad blocker, but I am not watching any ads here.
- tonyedgecombe 7mo ago
  HN is a recruitment tool for Y Combinator. Someone is paying for it with their attention. Did you think they are running it out of the goodness of their heart?
- greyface- 7mo ago
  HN regularly runs ads for YC companies. https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html https://news.ycombinator.com/jobguide.html

shiroiuma 7mo ago

For Meta specifically, what exactly would be so bad about all their stuff disappearing? I can't think of much. Messenger is the only thing of theirs that has any value as far as I can see, and there's many alternatives now.

bookofjoe 7mo ago
Demur. RayBan Meta and Oakley Meta glasses are fantastic devices.
- Larrikin 7mo ago
  I'd rather have five or ten smaller competing companies getting various deals from the glasses manufacturers than a couple huge companies getting them all.

bluefirebrand 7mo ago

I wout be absolutely delighted for it to all disappear and for the internet to go back to being only for enthusiasts again

einsteinx2 7mo ago

Mostly because I don’t believe anything of value would actually be lost (note you provided no examples and I’m not sure any exist), that also sounds incredible. So again, how do we make this no-ads paradise happen?

sunaookami 7mo ago

The internet worked before everything was plastered with ads.