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Thank you for sharing this. I 100% believe it, and it lines up with my experience with other people who came from similar backgrounds as Sam Altman - i.e. white

by pesus 7mo ago

Thank you for sharing this. I 100% believe it, and it lines up with my experience with other people who came from similar backgrounds as Sam Altman - i.e. white, rich, privileged, and attending elite universities. I will disagree with one part - I do believe it is racism. Most will never admit it publicly, but if they think you're one of them, it often comes out rather quickly, especially when alcohol is involved.

portender 7mo ago
It's sad to me that "racism" is such a divisive word to many, and is met with defensiveness rather than introspection and communication. Trying to not be racist takes work, and communication, and is a process, not a state. I appreciate OP's sharing as well. Also, racism isn't peddled only by rich white elite university attendees, it reaches into all the corners.
LAC-Tech 6mo ago
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- surajrmal 6mo ago
  Are Irish red and Italians olive? Most folks of color consider Jewish folk of a certain complexion white. Heck, some Mexicans are seen as white.
- gerhardi 6mo ago
  Have you seen him or a picture of him? Looks about as white as they come to me, putting his religious heritage aside.
  - LAC-Tech 6mo ago
    It's ignorant to base someones ethnicity on their skin color; by this logic Shinzo Abe was white too.
bakugo 6mo ago
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- Gud 6mo ago
  What was racist about the comment you responded to?
- lkey 6mo ago
  Interpersonal racism that produces systemic racism can be measured. Defined as: Disparate outcomes where, holding all other things equal, the only determinative factor is race. So, with altman, we maybe couldn't point out a single case where it was definitely interpersonal racism. He'd probably have several plausible explanations at hand, given who he is. But, if we were to look at his hiring and firing history, we could probably measure an 'unexplainable' dearth of black people in his orgs and circles. At that point, we can say his interpersonal racism has produced a measurable systemic effect that has disenfranchised many talented black people unfairly from this digital gold rush. I can't do this work, but I am certain someone at YC or OpenAI could, were they so inclined (they won't be).
- pesus 6mo ago
  > considering you just made a sweeping negative generalization based on race without recognizing it for what it is. I did no such thing. I'd suggest reading more carefully. Much of that background describes me as well. > Also, I find it interesting how your list of "backgrounds that define bad people" conveniently omits a specific trait that many tech CEOs of questionable morals share, likely because it doesn't align with your agenda. Can you elaborate instead of beating around the bush? What exactly do you think "my agenda" is? What "specific trait" are you referring to?
frollogaston 6mo ago
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- pesus 6mo ago
  I never claimed that. I am one myself. I'd suggest reading more carefully in the future.

by pesus 7mo ago

portender 7mo ago

It's sad to me that "racism" is such a divisive word to many, and is met with defensiveness rather than introspection and communication. Trying to not be racist takes work, and communication, and is a process, not a state. I appreciate OP's sharing as well. Also, racism isn't peddled only by rich white elite university attendees, it reaches into all the corners.

LAC-Tech 6mo ago

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surajrmal 6mo ago
Are Irish red and Italians olive? Most folks of color consider Jewish folk of a certain complexion white. Heck, some Mexicans are seen as white.
gerhardi 6mo ago
Have you seen him or a picture of him? Looks about as white as they come to me, putting his religious heritage aside.
- LAC-Tech 6mo ago
  It's ignorant to base someones ethnicity on their skin color; by this logic Shinzo Abe was white too.

bakugo 6mo ago

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Gud 6mo ago
What was racist about the comment you responded to?
lkey 6mo ago
Interpersonal racism that produces systemic racism can be measured. Defined as: Disparate outcomes where, holding all other things equal, the only determinative factor is race. So, with altman, we maybe couldn't point out a single case where it was definitely interpersonal racism. He'd probably have several plausible explanations at hand, given who he is. But, if we were to look at his hiring and firing history, we could probably measure an 'unexplainable' dearth of black people in his orgs and circles. At that point, we can say his interpersonal racism has produced a measurable systemic effect that has disenfranchised many talented black people unfairly from this digital gold rush. I can't do this work, but I am certain someone at YC or OpenAI could, were they so inclined (they won't be).
pesus 6mo ago
> considering you just made a sweeping negative generalization based on race without recognizing it for what it is. I did no such thing. I'd suggest reading more carefully. Much of that background describes me as well. > Also, I find it interesting how your list of "backgrounds that define bad people" conveniently omits a specific trait that many tech CEOs of questionable morals share, likely because it doesn't align with your agenda. Can you elaborate instead of beating around the bush? What exactly do you think "my agenda" is? What "specific trait" are you referring to?

frollogaston 6mo ago

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pesus 6mo ago
I never claimed that. I am one myself. I'd suggest reading more carefully in the future.