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Is Putin the most powerful figure? It seems Bibi holds the most sway over Trump this month. Don't get me wrong, I've no love for Putin, but framing the Trump p

Is Putin the most powerful figure? It seems Bibi holds the most sway over Trump this month. Don't get me wrong, I've no love for Putin, but framing the Trump project as Russian misses the huge amount of American money and effort behind him. Is Musk a Russian agent? The Heritage Foundation? Fox? There's a huge, all-American infrastructure behind Trump 2.0. I'm sure plenty of countries did their very best to get that guy in the Whitehouse, but I don't buy that Putin is the main character here.

Arodex 6mo ago
Musk repeats verbatim Russian talking points about Ukraine. When he parrots the same ideas down to the exact same words in the exact same order, what doubt is there?
- selivanovp 6mo ago
  >Musk repeats verbatim Russian talking points about Ukraine. Have it crossed your mind that they're just closer to truth than what Western propaganda spreads about Ukraine conflict and why it started and keep going?
  - Arodex 6mo ago
    Yes, it has crossed my mind. I examined their claims and they are blatant lies. And you, has it crossed your mind that Putin and his supporters are lying?
  - throw0101c 6mo ago
    > Have it crossed your mind that they're just closer to truth than what Western propaganda spreads about Ukraine conflict and why it started and keep going? It started because Putin wants the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union back, and he does not consider Ukrainians their own people, but just a bunch of folks that have forgotten they are really Russian/Soviet. The 'official' Rusian reason is/was because Ukraine was run by Nazis (never mind that Zelenskyy is Jewish).
throw0101c 6mo ago
> Is Putin the most powerful figure? It seems Bibi holds the most sway over Trump this month. Power and influence can be considered two different things. As for holding sway over Trump: it's often generally anyone that can flatter his ego and/or put money in his pockets. (Or for his swaying himself: whatever will get the most headlines, the most people talking about him.) Trump is not complicated: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

Arodex 6mo ago

Musk repeats verbatim Russian talking points about Ukraine. When he parrots the same ideas down to the exact same words in the exact same order, what doubt is there?

selivanovp 6mo ago
>Musk repeats verbatim Russian talking points about Ukraine. Have it crossed your mind that they're just closer to truth than what Western propaganda spreads about Ukraine conflict and why it started and keep going?
- Arodex 6mo ago
  Yes, it has crossed my mind. I examined their claims and they are blatant lies. And you, has it crossed your mind that Putin and his supporters are lying?
- throw0101c 6mo ago
  > Have it crossed your mind that they're just closer to truth than what Western propaganda spreads about Ukraine conflict and why it started and keep going? It started because Putin wants the 'good old days' of the Soviet Union back, and he does not consider Ukrainians their own people, but just a bunch of folks that have forgotten they are really Russian/Soviet. The 'official' Rusian reason is/was because Ukraine was run by Nazis (never mind that Zelenskyy is Jewish).

throw0101c 6mo ago

> Is Putin the most powerful figure? It seems Bibi holds the most sway over Trump this month. Power and influence can be considered two different things. As for holding sway over Trump: it's often generally anyone that can flatter his ego and/or put money in his pockets. (Or for his swaying himself: whatever will get the most headlines, the most people talking about him.) Trump is not complicated: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad