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> Punch up dude. No, thanks, though. Mark Zuckerberg doesn't care if everyone on the planet thinks he's a dick. But as long as folks like you will go to the en

by jmye 6mo ago

> Punch up dude. No, thanks, though. Mark Zuckerberg doesn't care if everyone on the planet thinks he's a dick. But as long as folks like you will go to the ends of the earth to make excuses for anyone who's complicit in the use of these tools, you're also to blame for the consequences of their use. > Maybe things aren't as vanta-black and ultra-white as you're insisting. Of course they're black and white, in exactly the same way, to use your example, that smoking cigarettes is bad. There is no need whatsoever to use any of these products. It is completely possible to live your life without them. You just don't want to, because you'd rather things be a bit easier and you're willing to ignore the negative externalities. Do you, dude. Just own it.

Schmerika 6mo ago
> folks like you will go to the ends of the earth to make excuses for anyone who's complicit in the use of these tools Settle down would ye. > in exactly the same way, to use your example, that smoking cigarettes is bad. No one said Facebook isn't bad. But "in exactly the same way" - calling cancer victims (who were lied to by tobacco executives and victims of disinformation campaigns and media blitzes) "complicit" in all the tobacco companies various crimes is unhinged. As in, not tethered to reality. And deeply uncool. > There is no need whatsoever to use any of these products. Correct. > You just don't want to, because you'd rather things be a bit easier and you're willing to ignore the negative externalities. I do want to. Yet I don't, mostly for the reasons I described above ("network effects, captured systems"). I acknowledge the negative externalities, much as I acknowledge them when I use my phone despite the fact that makes me complicit in slavery; or when I acknowledge that it's easier to pay taxes to the US, despite their complicity in genocide, than it is to go to jail. There's absolutely no need to invoke some sort of divine power to know my true motivations - unless you're just arguing this dead thread to feel superior or something. You know that meme with the guy popping out of the little hole, saying "You condemn society, yet you partake in it! Curious!"? ... Join the dots mate.

by jmye 6mo ago

Schmerika 6mo ago

> folks like you will go to the ends of the earth to make excuses for anyone who's complicit in the use of these tools Settle down would ye. > in exactly the same way, to use your example, that smoking cigarettes is bad. No one said Facebook isn't bad. But "in exactly the same way" - calling cancer victims (who were lied to by tobacco executives and victims of disinformation campaigns and media blitzes) "complicit" in all the tobacco companies various crimes is unhinged. As in, not tethered to reality. And deeply uncool. > There is no need whatsoever to use any of these products. Correct. > You just don't want to, because you'd rather things be a bit easier and you're willing to ignore the negative externalities. I do want to. Yet I don't, mostly for the reasons I described above ("network effects, captured systems"). I acknowledge the negative externalities, much as I acknowledge them when I use my phone despite the fact that makes me complicit in slavery; or when I acknowledge that it's easier to pay taxes to the US, despite their complicity in genocide, than it is to go to jail. There's absolutely no need to invoke some sort of divine power to know my true motivations - unless you're just arguing this dead thread to feel superior or something. You know that meme with the guy popping out of the little hole, saying "You condemn society, yet you partake in it! Curious!"? ... Join the dots mate.