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> it is really difficult to rank the intelligence of people who are smarter than you a comparative example that i think about quite often, in the realm of TTRP

> it is really difficult to rank the intelligence of people who are smarter than you a comparative example that i think about quite often, in the realm of TTRPG's: A smart person can play a dumb character well, usually, but a dumb person cannot play a smart character. Or rather, they usually end up playing a character that can be described as 'dumb guys idea of a smart guy', which is... distinct than 'smart guy' the broader point, ig: to model a level of intelligence well, it has to be 'within' your own, otherwise the model ends up too lossy!

silvestrov 6mo ago
and: a smart person can write a movie script with a stupid character but stupid script writers fail badly when writing smart characters.
- dist-epoch 6mo ago
  It's funny to imagine that's the reason why "aliens invading us" or "AI taking over" are finally defeated at the end of a movie with a really stupid trick.
ericd 6mo ago
The Big Bang Theory, explained.
thecrash 6mo ago
I think this might not be true though. This is like saying a marathon runner can walk like an amputee using a prosthetic. Just like anyone else with a disadvantage, people who aren't that smart develop diverse compensatory strategies to work around their intellectual limitations, and these can look very different from popular caricatures of "dumb guy". A stupid person is not as simple as a smart person might imagine.
- pfannkuchen 6mo ago
  But by talking to them you can tell. It doesn’t matter if they made a ton of money selling real estate or whatever or have lovely personality traits or… let me know if I’m missing something. You can still tell by talking to them, because the structure and detail of a smarter person’s thought process is impossible to fake*. If you are similarly smart you can mirror their structure in your head, but if you are not you will just think they are saying something weird or confusing. Whereas there is nothing stopping a smarter person from simplifying their thought process when communicating, or filtering out thoughts they don’t think will be understood by the listener. Extremely smart people can get very good at this if they are well socialized. * If it’s an interactive conversation, anyway

silvestrov 6mo ago

and: a smart person can write a movie script with a stupid character but stupid script writers fail badly when writing smart characters.

dist-epoch 6mo ago
It's funny to imagine that's the reason why "aliens invading us" or "AI taking over" are finally defeated at the end of a movie with a really stupid trick.

ericd 6mo ago

The Big Bang Theory, explained.

thecrash 6mo ago

I think this might not be true though. This is like saying a marathon runner can walk like an amputee using a prosthetic. Just like anyone else with a disadvantage, people who aren't that smart develop diverse compensatory strategies to work around their intellectual limitations, and these can look very different from popular caricatures of "dumb guy". A stupid person is not as simple as a smart person might imagine.

pfannkuchen 6mo ago
But by talking to them you can tell. It doesn’t matter if they made a ton of money selling real estate or whatever or have lovely personality traits or… let me know if I’m missing something. You can still tell by talking to them, because the structure and detail of a smarter person’s thought process is impossible to fake*. If you are similarly smart you can mirror their structure in your head, but if you are not you will just think they are saying something weird or confusing. Whereas there is nothing stopping a smarter person from simplifying their thought process when communicating, or filtering out thoughts they don’t think will be understood by the listener. Extremely smart people can get very good at this if they are well socialized. * If it’s an interactive conversation, anyway