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This is an infrastructure engineering problem, not a moral one. The Netherlands solves this with Dutch Roundabouts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhqTc_wx5EU

• lbreakjai 7mo ago
  Easily my least favourite piece of infrastructure. The one on the video is alright because you have a full car's length between the road and the cycle path, so you are at a full perpendicular with good visibility over the bikes. In plenty of other places, the space is much smaller, which puts the bike traffic almost directly in your blind spot as you cross. For example, here: https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3911559,4.6253401,3a,75y,110.46h,69.52t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1suX9VtcbHHB5t9glHsNcjew!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D20.484955728319036%26panoid%3DuX9VtcbHHB5t9glHsNcjew%26yaw%3D110.45783349412292!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDQwMS4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D https://www.google.com/maps/@52.3911559,4.6253401,3a,75y,110... It's really hard to anticipate as you may not have full unobstructed visibility as you drive around, especially since cyclists can come quite fast. https://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2014/05/the-best-roundabout-design-for-cyclists.html https://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2014/05/the-best-round...
  • vrganj 7mo ago
    Yes, the full car length is a key design feature. It wouldn't work without it and I understand why you would dislike ones without that.