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You seem to be making arguments with significantly less of a connection to the actual scenario being discussed. And you're explaining oversubscription to 2 net

by eqvinox 7mo ago

You seem to be making arguments with significantly less of a connection to the actual scenario being discussed. And you're explaining oversubscription to 2 network engineers, one of them having presented at APRICOT and APNIC. I guess I should've focused less on oversubscription and made clear that we know it's not spectrum utilization. For that, we have the equipment to measure, and we did, and it's not the problem.

CyberDildonics 7mo ago
For that, we have the equipment to measure, and we did, and it's not the problem. It has been a problem for basically everyone living in apartments that had network problems that I've seen. If you measure at the wrong time it's going to look fine. You have to be there when people are watching video over wifi. Again, just because people can't get their full bandwidth, it doesn't mean oversubscription is the actual bottleneck.
- eqvinox 7mo ago
  Dude, how oblivious are you. You're {man,nerd}splaining. Hard. Did you miss the "network engineer" part? Do you think our first step in debugging performance issues seen on wifi would be anything other than grabbing a cable?
  - CyberDildonics 7mo ago
    Did you miss the "network engineer" part? I get that you don't want to actually confront what I'm saying by pulling out a label and doing the appeal to authority routine, but that isn't real evidence or information. You're still ignoring that two things can be true, but it doesn't mean they are both equal contributors when you take a birds eye overview of entire countries. You also aren't explaining why wifi wouldn't be the primary bottleneck when you're surrounded by dozens of routers with shared walls and everyone is watching multiple video streams. If you go into an apartment 10 floors up anywhere with internet you see dozens of wifi networks.
    - eqvinox 7mo ago
      So sorry, you're right, wifi interference was slowing down the wired ethernet connection on the router that had no wifi. /eot
      - CyberDildonics 7mo ago
        It seems like you're taking a single instance and generalizing it to millions of people.

by eqvinox 7mo ago

CyberDildonics 7mo ago

For that, we have the equipment to measure, and we did, and it's not the problem. It has been a problem for basically everyone living in apartments that had network problems that I've seen. If you measure at the wrong time it's going to look fine. You have to be there when people are watching video over wifi. Again, just because people can't get their full bandwidth, it doesn't mean oversubscription is the actual bottleneck.

eqvinox 7mo ago
Dude, how oblivious are you. You're {man,nerd}splaining. Hard. Did you miss the "network engineer" part? Do you think our first step in debugging performance issues seen on wifi would be anything other than grabbing a cable?
- CyberDildonics 7mo ago
  Did you miss the "network engineer" part? I get that you don't want to actually confront what I'm saying by pulling out a label and doing the appeal to authority routine, but that isn't real evidence or information. You're still ignoring that two things can be true, but it doesn't mean they are both equal contributors when you take a birds eye overview of entire countries. You also aren't explaining why wifi wouldn't be the primary bottleneck when you're surrounded by dozens of routers with shared walls and everyone is watching multiple video streams. If you go into an apartment 10 floors up anywhere with internet you see dozens of wifi networks.
  - eqvinox 7mo ago
    So sorry, you're right, wifi interference was slowing down the wired ethernet connection on the router that had no wifi. /eot
    - CyberDildonics 7mo ago
      It seems like you're taking a single instance and generalizing it to millions of people.