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Parking in my town can now only be paid via smartphone. Yes, almost everyone has one, but: there are still people who do not.

gnerd00 6mo ago
don't you understand that this means a data trail to your location and government ID ? connecting to your ability to pay a legal fine? You are consenting to that ?
- Sayrus 6mo ago
  And your car, license and insurance are not such a connection?
ryandrake 6mo ago
I love it how they can't think of any other way to pay for parking than via smartphone, but if you just park there without paying, they'll offer you many ways to pay the fine.
- AshamedCaptain 6mo ago
  For how long until paying the fine requires a smartphone? And then for how long until you go to jail for not having a smartphone ?
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- alistairSH 6mo ago
  They can think of other payment flows, they don't want them because an app gets them data they can resell or abuse. I was (pleasantly?) surprised when my office parking lot implemented paid parking because it's doable via SMS and webpage (not an installed app). [thankfully my employer is picking up the tab, so I didn't have to do anything beyond providing my license plate numbers]
jasonjayr 6mo ago
And sometimes, it seems like there's no fallback if you have no [working] smartphone. I knew someone who had a working smartphone, but a broken camera for few months. Couldn't scan any qrcodes to use these services till the phone was replaced.
parpfish 6mo ago
on a roadtrip i stopped in a small town for lunch with street parking paid by app. super frustrating that i needed to sit in my car and download an app and set up an account just to park for an hour in a town i'm never going back to
- CamperBob2 6mo ago
  But you still did it, didn't you? Congrats, you're an essential part of the problem.
  - array_key_first 6mo ago
    We live in a society. The dude was hungry, what was he to do? We can't expect consumers to fix everything with dollar votes. They have lives, families, hobbies, things to do!
    - CamperBob2 6mo ago
      Eat somewhere else.

gnerd00 6mo ago

don't you understand that this means a data trail to your location and government ID ? connecting to your ability to pay a legal fine? You are consenting to that ?

Sayrus 6mo ago
And your car, license and insurance are not such a connection?

ryandrake 6mo ago

I love it how they can't think of any other way to pay for parking than via smartphone, but if you just park there without paying, they'll offer you many ways to pay the fine.

AshamedCaptain 6mo ago
For how long until paying the fine requires a smartphone? And then for how long until you go to jail for not having a smartphone ?
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alistairSH 6mo ago
They can think of other payment flows, they don't want them because an app gets them data they can resell or abuse. I was (pleasantly?) surprised when my office parking lot implemented paid parking because it's doable via SMS and webpage (not an installed app). [thankfully my employer is picking up the tab, so I didn't have to do anything beyond providing my license plate numbers]

jasonjayr 6mo ago

And sometimes, it seems like there's no fallback if you have no [working] smartphone. I knew someone who had a working smartphone, but a broken camera for few months. Couldn't scan any qrcodes to use these services till the phone was replaced.

parpfish 6mo ago

on a roadtrip i stopped in a small town for lunch with street parking paid by app. super frustrating that i needed to sit in my car and download an app and set up an account just to park for an hour in a town i'm never going back to

CamperBob2 6mo ago
But you still did it, didn't you? Congrats, you're an essential part of the problem.
- array_key_first 6mo ago
  We live in a society. The dude was hungry, what was he to do? We can't expect consumers to fix everything with dollar votes. They have lives, families, hobbies, things to do!
  - CamperBob2 6mo ago
    Eat somewhere else.