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While I sympathize with the author, and feel the same way, I think Apple/Google have some blame here. They make certain simple things only possible in the apps

by jedberg 6mo ago

While I sympathize with the author, and feel the same way, I think Apple/Google have some blame here. They make certain simple things only possible in the apps, because the APIs are not exposed via the web. Notifications is a big obvious one. Not sure if they've changed it since I last looked into it, but having an app installed was the only way to send a notification to someone for a long time.

dyarosla 6mo ago
Apple still doesnt give you the right dimensions for a page that switches between portrait and landscape.
plagiarist 6mo ago
That's one of the main reasons to not install an app. Extremely few apps are able to limit their notifications to actually transactional events. As soon as they have the capability they start spamming away.
KellyCriterion 6mo ago
Reg. Notifications: Isnt there are similar feature in iOS browser as in Firefox these "desktop notifications" that some webpages request?
Lihh27 6mo ago
> having an app installed was the only way to send a notification that used to be true, especially on ios. but web push has existed there for a while now for home screen web apps. so that explains some of the history... doesn't really excuse today's habit of shipping the web as a second-class client.
- graemep 6mo ago
  Do people allow website notifications? One argument I have heard raised in favour of mobile apps is that people are more likely to give an app notification permission.
wky 6mo ago
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sloum 6mo ago
Nah: https://www.magicbell.com/blog/using-push-notifications-in-pwas https://www.magicbell.com/blog/using-push-notifications-in-p...
davebren 6mo ago
How are you going to get a push notification from a site after the tab is closed?
- jedberg 6mo ago
  The web notification standard supports this. They have since adopted it, but it took them a long time to do so.
account42 6mo ago
Chrome has notifications at least in the desktop version and it's the most horrible thing ever as noobs end up with tons of notifications from random scam websites.

by jedberg 6mo ago

dyarosla 6mo ago

Apple still doesnt give you the right dimensions for a page that switches between portrait and landscape.

plagiarist 6mo ago

That's one of the main reasons to not install an app. Extremely few apps are able to limit their notifications to actually transactional events. As soon as they have the capability they start spamming away.

KellyCriterion 6mo ago

Reg. Notifications: Isnt there are similar feature in iOS browser as in Firefox these "desktop notifications" that some webpages request?

Lihh27 6mo ago

> having an app installed was the only way to send a notification that used to be true, especially on ios. but web push has existed there for a while now for home screen web apps. so that explains some of the history... doesn't really excuse today's habit of shipping the web as a second-class client.

graemep 6mo ago
Do people allow website notifications? One argument I have heard raised in favour of mobile apps is that people are more likely to give an app notification permission.

wky 6mo ago

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sloum 6mo ago

Nah: https://www.magicbell.com/blog/using-push-notifications-in-pwas https://www.magicbell.com/blog/using-push-notifications-in-p...

davebren 6mo ago

How are you going to get a push notification from a site after the tab is closed?

jedberg 6mo ago
The web notification standard supports this. They have since adopted it, but it took them a long time to do so.

account42 6mo ago

Chrome has notifications at least in the desktop version and it's the most horrible thing ever as noobs end up with tons of notifications from random scam websites.