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It really depends on the field you go into. If you're a writer and you want a job writing things, you go to college to become a better writer and prepare yourse
by wildzzz 7mo ago
It really depends on the field you go into. If you're a writer and you want a job writing things, you go to college to become a better writer and prepare yourself for working in that industry. If the professors just let you turn in AI slop, how does that benefit anyone? You didn't write anything, why are you here paying tuition? And it demonstrates to the industry that if colleges are handing out degrees to writers for AI slop, why do they even need writers? Just cut the middleman out and they can make the slop themselves.
You go to school to learn. Turning in AI slop doesn't teach you anything. You didn't have to research the subject and commit time to crafting the work into something good. You just typed in a prompt (or copy and pasted it) and then turned in whatever the computer made. The point of learning isn't to turn in assignments, it's to learn and demonstrate your knowledge via assignments. If you want to get a job producing AI slop, don't bother going to school.
- dpoloncsak 7mo agoWriting specifically, I'll concede may need some oversight to prevent LLM use. In general though, we should be looking at how to re-design assignments to demonstrate an understanding without being a large block of text, atleast imo. We (Or atleast, my school) started teaching us how to use a calculator in things like Trig and Calc. It's not about 'can you divide correctly to arrive at the correct value of sin' but 'can you differentiate when to use sin vs cos', which I think was the more valuable lesson. But maybe LLMs are so powerful, or so 'do it all', that we just cannot compare it to the calculator (Not in their current iteration, but looking ahead...)
- nomel 7mo agoIn person proctored exams, with individually randomized questions from a large pool, along with written answers completed during the test, like required for state certifications, are probably the only answer. The popular way to get around video chat proctoring is to physically attach notes to your screen, so when you sweep the room with the built in camera, it doesn't see anything.
- dpoloncsak 7mo agoThis works in theory, I wonder if it's too resource intensive to be actually feasible though. You can't proctor work done at home, and you can't trust the parents, so you'd need 'homework centers' which sounds like a nightmare, or only administer these during class hours?
- nomel 7mo agoYeah, it would only make sense for in class exams, rather than coursework, and with exams being the majority of the grade. Back in high school, this is how the state exams were performed. We had an external proctor come in.
- nomel 7mo ago> You go to school to learn. This is not the mindset of very many people. They go to school because it's a requirement to get a job. Talk to someone in college, or especially a trade school, and you'll see that the overwhelming majority are cheating, especially those from lower trust cultures. I work at a FAANG and, in casual conversation, many of my colleagues admitted to cheating with a dismissive "everyone does it".
- tim-tday 7mo agoYou guys are getting jobs?
- wildzzz 6mo agoAnd colleges need to crack down on those students to kick them out of school. Other students should ask why their hard work is being degraded because others feel the need to cheat through school? And if you're talking about schools in other countries, well, they get paid what they deserve.