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Have outlets like Deutsche Welle been speaking like this since 2013? I don't really think so. Not to defend the past administrations, but that the question is s

Have outlets like Deutsche Welle been speaking like this since 2013? I don't really think so. Not to defend the past administrations, but that the question is starting to hit mainstream media does in fact tell a huge lot about this current one.

_heimdall 7mo ago
France was back in 1971, though it was less about safety and more about whether we actually had enough gold to delivery.
- gchamonlive 7mo ago
  Which is ironic given it was once a huge colonial power
raphman 7mo ago
This has been a topic of continuous debate since at least ~2000 in Germany. The German Wikipedia has a whole section covering it¹. Obviously, the debate gets more intense every time the relationship between Germany and USA gets strained. ¹) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Goldreserven#Diskussion_um_die_Lagerung_im_Ausland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Goldreserven#Diskussi...
- gchamonlive 7mo ago
  Sovereignty is a matter of constant maintenance, but only recently has the discourse been affected by lack of trust in the admin itself, not only for transparency or logistics.
swed420 7mo ago
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- delichon 7mo ago
  It's hard to look at the judges nominated by the last two administrations and believe that they are the same.
  - swed420 7mo ago
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    - alsetmusic 7mo ago
      > think there is substantial difference between the two sub-parties You said something close enough. Yes, they're both terrible. Biden's admin allowed a genocide to take place in Gaza while pretending to give a damn about it and repeating propagandist lies from Israel. But the Trump admin is openly looting everything they can get their hands on. The real answer is something HN doesn't like so I won't advocate it openly, but it involves society paying to take care of people to provide homes, provide medical access, things like this. Neither party is interested in that. But only one is brazen about harming peopler and making content from it or unashamedly posting AI-generated memes. Seems kinda different to me.
      - swed420 7mo ago
        You're justifying evil using lesser-of-two-evils reasoning and then confused why evil remains. Consent.Manufacture();
      - imjonse 7mo ago
        > The real answer is something HN doesn't like so I won't advocate it openly, but it involves society paying to take care of people to provide homes, provide medical access, things like this. Neither party is interested in that. There are enough people on HN who think working social democracy is a great option; not everybody here is a libertarian cryptobro, an eastern european with decades-long PTSD or a hardcore conservative.
NicuCalcea 7mo ago
Earliest I can find is 2017: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-repatriates-gold-reserves-ahead-of-schedule/a-40208045 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-repatriates-gold-reserves-ahea...
- gchamonlive 7mo ago
  Radically different tone
raincole 7mo ago
They physically moved 300 tons of gold from the US to Germany during 2013~2017. I think actions weight more than words.
- gchamonlive 7mo ago
  Actions don't happen in a vacuum, you have to take context into consideration

_heimdall 7mo ago

France was back in 1971, though it was less about safety and more about whether we actually had enough gold to delivery.

gchamonlive 7mo ago
Which is ironic given it was once a huge colonial power

raphman 7mo ago

This has been a topic of continuous debate since at least ~2000 in Germany. The German Wikipedia has a whole section covering it¹. Obviously, the debate gets more intense every time the relationship between Germany and USA gets strained. ¹) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Goldreserven#Diskussion_um_die_Lagerung_im_Ausland https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Goldreserven#Diskussi...

gchamonlive 7mo ago
Sovereignty is a matter of constant maintenance, but only recently has the discourse been affected by lack of trust in the admin itself, not only for transparency or logistics.

swed420 7mo ago

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delichon 7mo ago
It's hard to look at the judges nominated by the last two administrations and believe that they are the same.
- swed420 7mo ago
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  - alsetmusic 7mo ago
    > think there is substantial difference between the two sub-parties You said something close enough. Yes, they're both terrible. Biden's admin allowed a genocide to take place in Gaza while pretending to give a damn about it and repeating propagandist lies from Israel. But the Trump admin is openly looting everything they can get their hands on. The real answer is something HN doesn't like so I won't advocate it openly, but it involves society paying to take care of people to provide homes, provide medical access, things like this. Neither party is interested in that. But only one is brazen about harming peopler and making content from it or unashamedly posting AI-generated memes. Seems kinda different to me.
    - swed420 7mo ago
      You're justifying evil using lesser-of-two-evils reasoning and then confused why evil remains. Consent.Manufacture();
    - imjonse 7mo ago
      > The real answer is something HN doesn't like so I won't advocate it openly, but it involves society paying to take care of people to provide homes, provide medical access, things like this. Neither party is interested in that. There are enough people on HN who think working social democracy is a great option; not everybody here is a libertarian cryptobro, an eastern european with decades-long PTSD or a hardcore conservative.

NicuCalcea 7mo ago

Earliest I can find is 2017: https://www.dw.com/en/germany-repatriates-gold-reserves-ahead-of-schedule/a-40208045 https://www.dw.com/en/germany-repatriates-gold-reserves-ahea...

gchamonlive 7mo ago
Radically different tone

raincole 7mo ago

They physically moved 300 tons of gold from the US to Germany during 2013~2017. I think actions weight more than words.

gchamonlive 7mo ago
Actions don't happen in a vacuum, you have to take context into consideration