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Seems like even under young voters more people support it than being against it; 30% of people aged 18-23 are strongly in favor, 57% of people in that age group

Seems like even under young voters more people support it than being against it; 30% of people aged 18-23 are strongly in favor, 57% of people in that age group supports it. I wonder why? Maybe these types of surveys don’t consider the implementation / what you need to give up in order to have age verification?

SkyeCA 7mo ago
> I wonder why? Because the internet, for all it's good, has caused society and individuals some pretty serious problems. I don't like the idea of mandatory age verification, but having unrestricted internet access as a kid was objectively bad for me and many of the people I know.
- righthand 7mo ago
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  - palmotea 7mo ago
    > That is your parent’s fault that it was bad for you. So don’t punish me or anyone else because you never learned control. I think you're suffering from a lack of empathy. That doesn't mean OS age verification should be implemented or not, but that you're going to be insufferable and pretty ignorant about what's going on. IMHO, the popularity of age-verification is due to the increasing awareness of the harms of much online activity, plus the impracticality of putting the whole burden of mitigating that for children onto the shoulders of parents. If you flippantly and contemptuously ignore those concerns, people will be happy to ignore your concerns. And since you brought it up: honestly, I wouldn't feel bad "punishing" you with this policy, just because of the attitude displayed in your comment. It's needlessly aggressive and making contemptuous assumptions. Your comment actually shoots your position in the foot.
    - righthand 7mo ago
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      - palmotea 7mo ago
        > I am increasingly in belief that more of the world will be split into the cattle camp and the cattle with agency camp. "Cattle camp"? Seriously? FYI: you're off the rails if you use terms like "sheeple" unironically. I suggest you get help for that. > I am not interested in your “this will be good for society” bs. You also need to work on your reading comprehension. > I don’t have to be empathetic to you or your “well I have an argument to help make the world worse” ideas and beliefs... You're not going to get far acting self-righteous and pissing on other's legitimate concerns because you labeled them "mak[ing] the world worse." > ...you... ignore opposing beliefs and criticisms. Look in the mirror.
        righthand 7mo ago
        You’re in denial if you think the average person isn’t being turned more and more into cattle. Yes seriously, cattle camp. > And since you brought it up: honestly, I wouldn't feel bad "punishing" you with this policy, just because of the attitude displayed in your comment. > You're not going to get far acting self-righteous and pissing on other's legitimate concerns Look in the mirror as well. You started with the “punishing you just because”.
        palmotea 7mo ago
        > Look in the mirror as well. You started with the “punishing you just because”. You actually introduced the "punishment" framing, which I think was unhelpful so mirrored it back to show that. You should also note that I scare-quoted it. And the point I was making was your attitude is harming your own advocacy.
        righthand 7mo ago
        You’ve already rejected the advocacy why would I be trying to convince you of anything?

SkyeCA 7mo ago

> I wonder why? Because the internet, for all it's good, has caused society and individuals some pretty serious problems. I don't like the idea of mandatory age verification, but having unrestricted internet access as a kid was objectively bad for me and many of the people I know.

righthand 7mo ago
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- palmotea 7mo ago
  > That is your parent’s fault that it was bad for you. So don’t punish me or anyone else because you never learned control. I think you're suffering from a lack of empathy. That doesn't mean OS age verification should be implemented or not, but that you're going to be insufferable and pretty ignorant about what's going on. IMHO, the popularity of age-verification is due to the increasing awareness of the harms of much online activity, plus the impracticality of putting the whole burden of mitigating that for children onto the shoulders of parents. If you flippantly and contemptuously ignore those concerns, people will be happy to ignore your concerns. And since you brought it up: honestly, I wouldn't feel bad "punishing" you with this policy, just because of the attitude displayed in your comment. It's needlessly aggressive and making contemptuous assumptions. Your comment actually shoots your position in the foot.
  - righthand 7mo ago
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    - palmotea 7mo ago
      > I am increasingly in belief that more of the world will be split into the cattle camp and the cattle with agency camp. "Cattle camp"? Seriously? FYI: you're off the rails if you use terms like "sheeple" unironically. I suggest you get help for that. > I am not interested in your “this will be good for society” bs. You also need to work on your reading comprehension. > I don’t have to be empathetic to you or your “well I have an argument to help make the world worse” ideas and beliefs... You're not going to get far acting self-righteous and pissing on other's legitimate concerns because you labeled them "mak[ing] the world worse." > ...you... ignore opposing beliefs and criticisms. Look in the mirror.
      - righthand 7mo ago
        You’re in denial if you think the average person isn’t being turned more and more into cattle. Yes seriously, cattle camp. > And since you brought it up: honestly, I wouldn't feel bad "punishing" you with this policy, just because of the attitude displayed in your comment. > You're not going to get far acting self-righteous and pissing on other's legitimate concerns Look in the mirror as well. You started with the “punishing you just because”.
        palmotea 7mo ago
        > Look in the mirror as well. You started with the “punishing you just because”. You actually introduced the "punishment" framing, which I think was unhelpful so mirrored it back to show that. You should also note that I scare-quoted it. And the point I was making was your attitude is harming your own advocacy.
        righthand 7mo ago
        You’ve already rejected the advocacy why would I be trying to convince you of anything?