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It's so homogeneous that there are 4 national languages, one of which is german with tons of loval dialects. It's so homogeneous that each canton has own sub re

It's so homogeneous that there are 4 national languages, one of which is german with tons of loval dialects. It's so homogeneous that each canton has own sub regulations. It's so homogeneous that in it's biggest city, Zurich, 34% of people are foreigners and 45% born outside of Switzerland. But we can look at the opposite part of spectrum - Moldova, poorest country in Europe - 85% of infra is covered by fibre, >90% of population has option to get 1GBit fiber There are always reasons why something can't be done, just like solving frequent school shooting problem in US

Sesse__ 7mo ago
> 34% of people are foreigners I remember moving there, hearing talks about how international Zurich was, and then realizing most of those foreigners were German. :-) It's diverse on paper (and probably to the Swiss), but it's not like it's a cosmopolitan melting pot.
- izacus 7mo ago
  They really aren't.
- micwag 7mo ago
  Most immigration happens between neighboring countries e.g. the biggest immigrant group in Los Angeles are Mexicans. If you exclude neighboring countries Zurich has a foreign born population share of 27% (compared to 18% of Los Angeles). If you only look at the last 10 years Zurich has foreign born non neighboring immigration of 10% (compared to 4% for Los Angeles). If you only look at intercontinental migration then Los Angeles wins with 14% (compared to 8% of Zurich). So yes Zurich is less cosmopolitan then LA, but most of it is just because the US has more diverse neighbors.
- tribaal 7mo ago
  Maybe you should visit Geneva then, or most of the "Arc Lemanique". It's way more diverse than Zurich. Well, if you mean "diverse" as "more brown people" as your comment seems to imply.
Ray20 7mo ago
> It's so homogeneous that there are 4 national languages Perhaps he's talking about a different kind of homogeneity (one that conventionally falls under the "racism" category) > Moldova, poorest country in Europe - 85% of infra is covered by fibre Do not arm him with arguments
- inglor_cz 7mo ago
  Americans are so used to racialized society that they tend to see "white" as a natural diversity/homogenity category, same with "Asian". And so they see "white Switzerland" as a homogeneous country. That is absurd for anyone who lives in the Old World. Some of the worst wars in history were fought amongst people whom you wouldn't be able to tell apart in a sauna. Heck, even Palestinians and Israeli Jews are physically very similar. "White", "brown" etc. aren't meaningful categories in the Old World, with a few exceptions like South Africa. Most of the Old World is intensely tribal.
- cindyllm 7mo ago
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Sesse__ 7mo ago

> 34% of people are foreigners I remember moving there, hearing talks about how international Zurich was, and then realizing most of those foreigners were German. :-) It's diverse on paper (and probably to the Swiss), but it's not like it's a cosmopolitan melting pot.

izacus 7mo ago
They really aren't.
micwag 7mo ago
Most immigration happens between neighboring countries e.g. the biggest immigrant group in Los Angeles are Mexicans. If you exclude neighboring countries Zurich has a foreign born population share of 27% (compared to 18% of Los Angeles). If you only look at the last 10 years Zurich has foreign born non neighboring immigration of 10% (compared to 4% for Los Angeles). If you only look at intercontinental migration then Los Angeles wins with 14% (compared to 8% of Zurich). So yes Zurich is less cosmopolitan then LA, but most of it is just because the US has more diverse neighbors.
tribaal 7mo ago
Maybe you should visit Geneva then, or most of the "Arc Lemanique". It's way more diverse than Zurich. Well, if you mean "diverse" as "more brown people" as your comment seems to imply.

Ray20 7mo ago

> It's so homogeneous that there are 4 national languages Perhaps he's talking about a different kind of homogeneity (one that conventionally falls under the "racism" category) > Moldova, poorest country in Europe - 85% of infra is covered by fibre Do not arm him with arguments

inglor_cz 7mo ago
Americans are so used to racialized society that they tend to see "white" as a natural diversity/homogenity category, same with "Asian". And so they see "white Switzerland" as a homogeneous country. That is absurd for anyone who lives in the Old World. Some of the worst wars in history were fought amongst people whom you wouldn't be able to tell apart in a sauna. Heck, even Palestinians and Israeli Jews are physically very similar. "White", "brown" etc. aren't meaningful categories in the Old World, with a few exceptions like South Africa. Most of the Old World is intensely tribal.
cindyllm 7mo ago
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