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See also, one of the older / more-robust entrants in this space [0], and one of the more innovative (still from a hot-second ago now…) [1]. All the best, 0. h

See also, one of the older / more-robust entrants in this space [0], and one of the more innovative (still from a hot-second ago now…) [1]. All the best, 0. https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im https://github.com/andmarti1424/sc-im 1. https://www.syntax-k.de/projekte/teapot/ https://www.syntax-k.de/projekte/teapot/

somat 6mo ago
Teapot is pretty great, it's too bad there is close to zero room for real innovation in the spreadsheet domain. For the most part if it's not spreadsheeting how prophet Dan Bricklin envisioned, people don't want it. See also: lotus improv Actually... on that note I realized have never tried lotus improv. I found a copy of the win3.1 version here. https://archive.org/details/lotus-improv-2.0-for-windows-2.0-1993-02-english-2.5-1.44-mb https://archive.org/details/lotus-improv-2.0-for-windows-2.0... But my plan is to go for the full nerd experiance and see if I can get the nextstep version to work. https://winworldpc.com/download/7c521434-e280-a0e2-82ac-11c3a5c28f13 https://winworldpc.com/download/7c521434-e280-a0e2-82ac-11c3... Which will require a NeXT machine emulator https://previous.nextcommunity.net/ https://previous.nextcommunity.net/ Wish me luck.
- einr 6mo ago
  The easy way to accomplish this is to just launch a NeXTstep box in your browser from https://infinitemac.org/ https://infinitemac.org/ I don’t know if they have Improv pre-installed, but it will let you mount disk images from your computer. (Personally I find the easy way too easy, so I have NeXT^WOpenSTEP installed on bare metal on a 5x86 box. But that’s me)
- mhd 6mo ago
  > Teapot is pretty great, it's too bad there is close to zero room for real innovation in the spreadsheet domain. One issue is that this is hard to do while still retaining backwards compatibility. Lotus Improv basically gave you no other choice, something that Excel The Next Version can't do. And I doubt that we're getting a third MS app, no Multiplan -> Excel -> NewSpreadsheetThingProbablyCalledCopilotAnyway. I know a lot of people that don't even use Excel's tables, introduced almost 20 years ago. But instead they painstakingly recreate most of its built-in features. It's just an easy shortcut away, and has plenty of GUI support hidden in the ribbon morass, but it's not the default state…
0_gravitas 6mo ago
Oh man, I played with teapot once a long while ago, but couldn't figure out how to parse values from XDR files in $LANG, or export some given sheet into CSV or other format- which sadly put a stop to my experimentation. Super interesting otherwise, and wish it had more eyes.

somat 6mo ago

Teapot is pretty great, it's too bad there is close to zero room for real innovation in the spreadsheet domain. For the most part if it's not spreadsheeting how prophet Dan Bricklin envisioned, people don't want it. See also: lotus improv Actually... on that note I realized have never tried lotus improv. I found a copy of the win3.1 version here. https://archive.org/details/lotus-improv-2.0-for-windows-2.0-1993-02-english-2.5-1.44-mb https://archive.org/details/lotus-improv-2.0-for-windows-2.0... But my plan is to go for the full nerd experiance and see if I can get the nextstep version to work. https://winworldpc.com/download/7c521434-e280-a0e2-82ac-11c3a5c28f13 https://winworldpc.com/download/7c521434-e280-a0e2-82ac-11c3... Which will require a NeXT machine emulator https://previous.nextcommunity.net/ https://previous.nextcommunity.net/ Wish me luck.

einr 6mo ago
The easy way to accomplish this is to just launch a NeXTstep box in your browser from https://infinitemac.org/ https://infinitemac.org/ I don’t know if they have Improv pre-installed, but it will let you mount disk images from your computer. (Personally I find the easy way too easy, so I have NeXT^WOpenSTEP installed on bare metal on a 5x86 box. But that’s me)
mhd 6mo ago
> Teapot is pretty great, it's too bad there is close to zero room for real innovation in the spreadsheet domain. One issue is that this is hard to do while still retaining backwards compatibility. Lotus Improv basically gave you no other choice, something that Excel The Next Version can't do. And I doubt that we're getting a third MS app, no Multiplan -> Excel -> NewSpreadsheetThingProbablyCalledCopilotAnyway. I know a lot of people that don't even use Excel's tables, introduced almost 20 years ago. But instead they painstakingly recreate most of its built-in features. It's just an easy shortcut away, and has plenty of GUI support hidden in the ribbon morass, but it's not the default state…

0_gravitas 6mo ago

Oh man, I played with teapot once a long while ago, but couldn't figure out how to parse values from XDR files in $LANG, or export some given sheet into CSV or other format- which sadly put a stop to my experimentation. Super interesting otherwise, and wish it had more eyes.