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The job no one wants? Grunting out 2.6 babies before you’re 35. Who’s paying for your nursing home? Tax the robot’s income? Will your demographic replacements

The job no one wants? Grunting out 2.6 babies before you’re 35. Who’s paying for your nursing home? Tax the robot’s income? Will your demographic replacements vote for that?

alephnerd 6mo ago
> Who’s paying for your nursing home Japanese financial institutions massive capital positions across Asia, the US, and Europe which tend to be public-private ventures. > Tax the robot’s income Pretty much, in the sense that corporations and the Japanese government have spent decades working together to build a sovereign wealth model comparable to Singapore and the UAE's.
- robotnikman 6mo ago
  This is something that really needs to be done in the states imo. IIRC we don't have a sovereign wealth fund, but we should in order to provide a social safety net for our citizens, especially with all the uncertainties regarding the future right now.
  - tmpz22 6mo ago
    No no no. We’re a Christian nation. Fuck them kids (literally, on an island). Get rich, fuck young models. Just like the President.
areoform 6mo ago
> Grunting out 2.6 babies before you’re 35. * destroying your body, stripping your bones, getting diabetes and temporarily (or permanently) disabling yourself with issues no healthcare provider will take seriously for decades to come for 2.6 babies in your youth. ––– Someone called this a "belief." There's a 10% to 4% probability that the average teenage girl will die from childbirth, given the cumulative risk of pregnancies in nations without modern medicine. That's the default state of the human condition. Maternal mortality is frequent and 1 in 25 to 1 in 10 for women without modern medical interventions. see: The probability that a 15 year old girl eventually dies from a pregnancy-related cause, assuming constant levels of maternal mortality and number of births per woman. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/lifetime-risk-of-maternal-death https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/lifetime-risk-of-maternal... There's a reason why the more women become aware of the risks and downsides of pregnancy – the less likely they are to go through with it. Even when indoctrinated from the start. The only sane solution in an otherwise insane world is technological, external gestation / exowombs.
- chromacity 6mo ago
  Indeed. Gotta keep that body in a tip-top shape so that we can pull off all-nighters at some dude's AI startup while eating pizza and pretzels.
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- dumbmrblah 6mo ago
  Lol my wife is in better shape now after kids than when she was pregnant, and she was in amazing shape before. For some people having kids crystallizes the importance of health, etc.
- ericd 6mo ago
  This happens, but it's not representative. Interesting belief, it seems like it should be self-extinguishing, the cultures that don't believe this kind of thing will tend to take over over time.
  - toomuchtodo 6mo ago
    Most of the world is below replacement rate (~2.1 TFR), the rest will get there in a decade or two. Educated, empowered women delay having children, have less children, or no children. Holds across both developed and developing countries. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/15/5-facts-about-global-fertility-trends/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/15/5-facts-a... https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-countries-by-fertility-rate/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-countries-by-fert...
    - alex43578 6mo ago
      The world, yes, but specific niches no. Look at the Mormons, or Nigeria, or Somalis in America at 3x the US birthrate.

The job no one wants? Grunting out 2.6 babies before you’re 35. Who’s paying for your nursing home? Tax the robot’s income? Will your demographic replacements vote for that?

alephnerd 6mo ago

> Who’s paying for your nursing home Japanese financial institutions massive capital positions across Asia, the US, and Europe which tend to be public-private ventures. > Tax the robot’s income Pretty much, in the sense that corporations and the Japanese government have spent decades working together to build a sovereign wealth model comparable to Singapore and the UAE's.

robotnikman 6mo ago
This is something that really needs to be done in the states imo. IIRC we don't have a sovereign wealth fund, but we should in order to provide a social safety net for our citizens, especially with all the uncertainties regarding the future right now.
- tmpz22 6mo ago
  No no no. We’re a Christian nation. Fuck them kids (literally, on an island). Get rich, fuck young models. Just like the President.

areoform 6mo ago

> Grunting out 2.6 babies before you’re 35. * destroying your body, stripping your bones, getting diabetes and temporarily (or permanently) disabling yourself with issues no healthcare provider will take seriously for decades to come for 2.6 babies in your youth. ––– Someone called this a "belief." There's a 10% to 4% probability that the average teenage girl will die from childbirth, given the cumulative risk of pregnancies in nations without modern medicine. That's the default state of the human condition. Maternal mortality is frequent and 1 in 25 to 1 in 10 for women without modern medical interventions. see: The probability that a 15 year old girl eventually dies from a pregnancy-related cause, assuming constant levels of maternal mortality and number of births per woman. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/lifetime-risk-of-maternal-death https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/lifetime-risk-of-maternal... There's a reason why the more women become aware of the risks and downsides of pregnancy – the less likely they are to go through with it. Even when indoctrinated from the start. The only sane solution in an otherwise insane world is technological, external gestation / exowombs.

chromacity 6mo ago
Indeed. Gotta keep that body in a tip-top shape so that we can pull off all-nighters at some dude's AI startup while eating pizza and pretzels.
- deleted 6mo ago
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dumbmrblah 6mo ago
Lol my wife is in better shape now after kids than when she was pregnant, and she was in amazing shape before. For some people having kids crystallizes the importance of health, etc.
ericd 6mo ago
This happens, but it's not representative. Interesting belief, it seems like it should be self-extinguishing, the cultures that don't believe this kind of thing will tend to take over over time.
- toomuchtodo 6mo ago
  Most of the world is below replacement rate (~2.1 TFR), the rest will get there in a decade or two. Educated, empowered women delay having children, have less children, or no children. Holds across both developed and developing countries. https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/15/5-facts-about-global-fertility-trends/ https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/08/15/5-facts-a... https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf https://www.sas.upenn.edu/~jesusfv/Slides_London.pdf https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-countries-by-fertility-rate/ https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cp/mapped-countries-by-fert...
  - alex43578 6mo ago
    The world, yes, but specific niches no. Look at the Mormons, or Nigeria, or Somalis in America at 3x the US birthrate.