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Irans leadership does not want to be killed by being bombed every few month. So they need to impose sufficient costs to deter bombing them. Idk what you are mi

Irans leadership does not want to be killed by being bombed every few month. So they need to impose sufficient costs to deter bombing them. Idk what you are missing... maybe that people don't want to be killed and try to implement strategies to not get killed?

spwa4 6mo ago
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- akagusu 6mo ago
  Just like ICE killing american citizens? Yeah, what's the problem with that?
  - ratrace 6mo ago
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  - spwa4 6mo ago
    Of course these 2 compare about as standing on a random pedestrian's toe compares to massacring a small city. Both regrettable in absolute terms, but not remotely comparable. (why not just the numbers? Because the ICE deaths were definitely not intentional. Nobody gave anybody the order to fire. But Iran's killing of protestors was 100% intentional by the regime. In other words, aside from 2 versus 40.000, all 40.000 Iranian deaths count as 1st degree murder, including the massacre on children Iran's islamists committed)
    - akagusu 6mo ago
      As an American citizen my concern is the American regime shooting American citizens. I'm not Iranian and I'm not there, but I'm here where ICE can "unintentionally" shot me. And bringing numbers to make them look bad and justify the war doesn't help, because Israel killed much more in Gaza with the help of US government and corporations. Let's compare both them?
      - _DeadFred_ 6mo ago
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        spwa4 6mo ago
        Plus, if these people even remotely cared about what's happening in the US, this is not what they'd be talking about. They want to support Iranian repression for their "pride". If anything, they want the US, long term, to become a dictatorial hellhole like Iran.
    - conception 6mo ago
      By what measure were the ICE killings not intentional? Lifting a dude you just shot to point out the holes in him to your friends not intentional enough for ya?
    - Jamesbeam 6mo ago
      Ok, let’s compare apples to apples then. You should research how many civilians the US army killed in airstrikes alone before coming to false conclusions. Yes, the mullah regime are monsters, but no lesser or bigger monster than the good-oiled machine the whole US economy is running on that is killing men, women and children by US service members through all of the command chain for glory, medals, and profit. In Iran, not every commander went out to kill protesters, just like the majority of us soldiers wouldn’t rape and kill a pregnant Afghan woman. Still, both militaries are very much comparable in the modern day atrocities they did to civilians. The US, unlike Iran on a global scale tho for decades. Iran didn’t go to war in Vietnam, for example, or nuke Japanese children and women. A few confirmed and well researched examples. https://archive.ph/2apS4 https://archive.ph/2apS4 Ahead of the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist atrocities, and the subsequent launch of the War on Terror, Airwars has been seeking the answer to one important question – how many civilians have US strikes likely killed in the ‘Forever Wars’? We found that the US has declared at least 91,340 strikes across seven major conflict zones. Our research has concluded that at least 22,679, and potentially as many as 48,308 civilians, have been likely killed by US strikes. Between 2013 and 2020, for example, the United States carried out seven separate attacks in Yemen—six drone strikes and one raid—that killed 36 members of the intermarried Al Ameri and Al Taisy families. A quarter of them were children between the ages of three months and 14 years old. The survivors have been waiting for years for an explanation as to why they were repeatedly targeted. In 2018, Adel Al Manthari, a civil servant in the Yemeni government, and four of his cousins—all civilians—were traveling by truck when an American missile slammed into their vehicle. Three of the men were killed instantly. Another died days later in a local hospital. Al Manthari was critically injured. Complications resulting from his injuries nearly killed him in 2022. He beseeched the US government to dip into the millions of dollars appropriated by Congress to compensate victims of American attacks, but they ignored his pleas. His limbs and life were eventually saved by the kindness of strangers via a crowdsourced GoFundMe campaign. The same year that Al Manthari was maimed in Yemen, a US drone strike in Somalia killed at least three, and possibly five, civilians, including 22-year-old Luul Dahir Mohamed and her 4-year-old daughter Mariam Shilow Muse. The next year, a US military investigation acknowledged that a woman and child were killed in that attack, but concluded that their identities might never be known. A 2021 investigation by New York Times reporter Azmat Khan revealed that the American air war in Iraq and Syria was marked by flawed intelligence and inaccurate targeting, resulting in the deaths of many innocents. Out of 1,311 military reports analyzed by Khan, only one cited a “possible violation” of the rules of engagement. None included a finding of wrongdoing or suggested a need for disciplinary action, while fewer than a dozen condolence payments were made. The US-led coalition eventually admitted to killing 1,410 civilians during the war in Iraq and Syria. Airwars, however, puts the number at 2,024. https://archive.ph/KZBAy https://archive.ph/KZBAy During the Vietnam War, providing “solatia” was a way for the military to offer reparations for civilian injuries or deaths caused by US operations without having to admit any guilt. In 1968, the going rate for an adult life was $33. Children merited just half that. In 1973, a B-52 Stratofortress dropped 30 tons of bombs on the Cambodian town of Neak Luong, killing hundreds of civilians and wounding hundreds more. The next of kin of those killed, according to press reports, were promised about $400 each. Just a few days ago, they allegedly bombed a girls’ school and killed a bunch of children, again, allegedly based on false and outdated intel, something that can no longer be ignored as accidents but a pattern. Instead of putting safeguards in place so the stuff from the 2021 investigation doesn’t happen again, they now use even fewer humans in the killing loop and outsource a part of the decision-making to a technology that is by design flawed and hallucinating up to 35% of the time. A chance we shouldn’t take if the result of error is innocent children getting turned to ash. It’s the first time ever that I see cardinals and the church calling the secretary of defense/war a heretic. Think about that. "Munich Cardinal Reinhard Marx has strongly condemned the misuse of religious language to justify war and violence. In his Easter Sunday sermon, the archbishop specifically criticized remarks by U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth (who refers to himself as a “war minister”). It is a “shameless blasphemy,” Marx said in Munich, to pray that in the context of a war—such as in Iran—every bullet may hit its target. Religion, he stressed, must not be instrumentalized to legitimize violence." We are now at a point in history where after the crusades, collateral damage is justified as "gods will", the commander in chief just today openly suggested war crimes and ended with "praise be to Allah". Absolute insanity. I could keep going all day but I guess at this point in this comment most people will either feel sick or rather want to go back to chanting USA USA and looking the other way. I would reconsider your position if I were you.
    - queenkjuul 6mo ago
      40,000 people killed in one week? That's Nazi death camp numbers. You are an idiot for believing it.
  - dzhiurgis 6mo ago
    Problem is you can't say the same out loud in Iran without risking your life.
    - neomantra 6mo ago
      Huh?? You are replying to a comment about a Free Speaker who was murdered point blank on a US street for protecting another Free Speaker who was being pepper sprayed for exercising their Free Speech!
      - Sabinus 6mo ago
        And it looked so bad that Trump pulled ICE out of Minnesota. Pretty different set of circumstances to shooting tens of thousands of your own citizens.
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- feb012025 6mo ago
  "The United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters through the Kurds, President Trump told Fox News." "Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets. Also to every Mossad agent walking beside them..." - Mike Pompeo
  - jauntywundrkind 6mo ago
    Words from one of the world's most infamous delusional liars. Words worth nothing.
- queenkjuul 6mo ago
  How do you believe this shit. It took Israel a full year of 24/7 indiscriminate murder in Gaza to reach 30,000 dead civilians, and the entire place is rubble as a result. How in the god damn fuck do you think Iran killed that many people in one week without Tehran looking like Gaza? Gullible brainwashed dolts can't even think for two seconds
dzhiurgis 6mo ago
Iran leadership would be honored to die while trying to destroy Israel and save Iran. They don't care about death. It's the same fatalistic mentality as in Russia. They don't give a shit. They almost enjoy suffering as it's part of their ethos.
_DeadFred_ 6mo ago
FYI the IRGC is importing more invaders to prop up it's unpopular occupation regime, this time Pakistani militia are now being recruited into Iran to oppress/occupy the Iranian population and act in service of the occupation theocratic government: "The roaming of the Islamic Republic's proxies in Iran; entry of "Zainabiyoun" of Pakistan after "Hashd al-Shaabi" of Iraq and "Fatemiyoun" of Afghanistan Reports of the presence of forces affiliated with the Zainabiyoun Division of Pakistan have been published in various areas of Sistan and Baluchestan province."

spwa4 6mo ago

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akagusu 6mo ago
Just like ICE killing american citizens? Yeah, what's the problem with that?
- ratrace 6mo ago
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- spwa4 6mo ago
  Of course these 2 compare about as standing on a random pedestrian's toe compares to massacring a small city. Both regrettable in absolute terms, but not remotely comparable. (why not just the numbers? Because the ICE deaths were definitely not intentional. Nobody gave anybody the order to fire. But Iran's killing of protestors was 100% intentional by the regime. In other words, aside from 2 versus 40.000, all 40.000 Iranian deaths count as 1st degree murder, including the massacre on children Iran's islamists committed)
  - akagusu 6mo ago
    As an American citizen my concern is the American regime shooting American citizens. I'm not Iranian and I'm not there, but I'm here where ICE can "unintentionally" shot me. And bringing numbers to make them look bad and justify the war doesn't help, because Israel killed much more in Gaza with the help of US government and corporations. Let's compare both them?
    - _DeadFred_ 6mo ago
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      - spwa4 6mo ago
        Plus, if these people even remotely cared about what's happening in the US, this is not what they'd be talking about. They want to support Iranian repression for their "pride". If anything, they want the US, long term, to become a dictatorial hellhole like Iran.
  - conception 6mo ago
    By what measure were the ICE killings not intentional? Lifting a dude you just shot to point out the holes in him to your friends not intentional enough for ya?
  - Jamesbeam 6mo ago
    Ok, let’s compare apples to apples then. You should research how many civilians the US army killed in airstrikes alone before coming to false conclusions. Yes, the mullah regime are monsters, but no lesser or bigger monster than the good-oiled machine the whole US economy is running on that is killing men, women and children by US service members through all of the command chain for glory, medals, and profit. In Iran, not every commander went out to kill protesters, just like the majority of us soldiers wouldn’t rape and kill a pregnant Afghan woman. Still, both militaries are very much comparable in the modern day atrocities they did to civilians. The US, unlike Iran on a global scale tho for decades. Iran didn’t go to war in Vietnam, for example, or nuke Japanese children and women. A few confirmed and well researched examples. https://archive.ph/2apS4 https://archive.ph/2apS4 Ahead of the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist atrocities, and the subsequent launch of the War on Terror, Airwars has been seeking the answer to one important question – how many civilians have US strikes likely killed in the ‘Forever Wars’? We found that the US has declared at least 91,340 strikes across seven major conflict zones. Our research has concluded that at least 22,679, and potentially as many as 48,308 civilians, have been likely killed by US strikes. Between 2013 and 2020, for example, the United States carried out seven separate attacks in Yemen—six drone strikes and one raid—that killed 36 members of the intermarried Al Ameri and Al Taisy families. A quarter of them were children between the ages of three months and 14 years old. The survivors have been waiting for years for an explanation as to why they were repeatedly targeted. In 2018, Adel Al Manthari, a civil servant in the Yemeni government, and four of his cousins—all civilians—were traveling by truck when an American missile slammed into their vehicle. Three of the men were killed instantly. Another died days later in a local hospital. Al Manthari was critically injured. Complications resulting from his injuries nearly killed him in 2022. He beseeched the US government to dip into the millions of dollars appropriated by Congress to compensate victims of American attacks, but they ignored his pleas. His limbs and life were eventually saved by the kindness of strangers via a crowdsourced GoFundMe campaign. The same year that Al Manthari was maimed in Yemen, a US drone strike in Somalia killed at least three, and possibly five, civilians, including 22-year-old Luul Dahir Mohamed and her 4-year-old daughter Mariam Shilow Muse. The next year, a US military investigation acknowledged that a woman and child were killed in that attack, but concluded that their identities might never be known. A 2021 investigation by New York Times reporter Azmat Khan revealed that the American air war in Iraq and Syria was marked by flawed intelligence and inaccurate targeting, resulting in the deaths of many innocents. Out of 1,311 military reports analyzed by Khan, only one cited a “possible violation” of the rules of engagement. None included a finding of wrongdoing or suggested a need for disciplinary action, while fewer than a dozen condolence payments were made. The US-led coalition eventually admitted to killing 1,410 civilians during the war in Iraq and Syria. Airwars, however, puts the number at 2,024. https://archive.ph/KZBAy https://archive.ph/KZBAy During the Vietnam War, providing “solatia” was a way for the military to offer reparations for civilian injuries or deaths caused by US operations without having to admit any guilt. In 1968, the going rate for an adult life was $33. Children merited just half that. In 1973, a B-52 Stratofortress dropped 30 tons of bombs on the Cambodian town of Neak Luong, killing hundreds of civilians and wounding hundreds more. The next of kin of those killed, according to press reports, were promised about $400 each. Just a few days ago, they allegedly bombed a girls’ school and killed a bunch of children, again, allegedly based on false and outdated intel, something that can no longer be ignored as accidents but a pattern. Instead of putting safeguards in place so the stuff from the 2021 investigation doesn’t happen again, they now use even fewer humans in the killing loop and outsource a part of the decision-making to a technology that is by design flawed and hallucinating up to 35% of the time. A chance we shouldn’t take if the result of error is innocent children getting turned to ash. It’s the first time ever that I see cardinals and the church calling the secretary of defense/war a heretic. Think about that. "Munich Cardinal Reinhard Marx has strongly condemned the misuse of religious language to justify war and violence. In his Easter Sunday sermon, the archbishop specifically criticized remarks by U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth (who refers to himself as a “war minister”). It is a “shameless blasphemy,” Marx said in Munich, to pray that in the context of a war—such as in Iran—every bullet may hit its target. Religion, he stressed, must not be instrumentalized to legitimize violence." We are now at a point in history where after the crusades, collateral damage is justified as "gods will", the commander in chief just today openly suggested war crimes and ended with "praise be to Allah". Absolute insanity. I could keep going all day but I guess at this point in this comment most people will either feel sick or rather want to go back to chanting USA USA and looking the other way. I would reconsider your position if I were you.
  - queenkjuul 6mo ago
    40,000 people killed in one week? That's Nazi death camp numbers. You are an idiot for believing it.
- dzhiurgis 6mo ago
  Problem is you can't say the same out loud in Iran without risking your life.
  - neomantra 6mo ago
    Huh?? You are replying to a comment about a Free Speaker who was murdered point blank on a US street for protecting another Free Speaker who was being pepper sprayed for exercising their Free Speech!
    - Sabinus 6mo ago
      And it looked so bad that Trump pulled ICE out of Minnesota. Pretty different set of circumstances to shooting tens of thousands of your own citizens.
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feb012025 6mo ago
"The United States sent guns to the Iranian protesters through the Kurds, President Trump told Fox News." "Happy New Year to every Iranian in the streets. Also to every Mossad agent walking beside them..." - Mike Pompeo
- jauntywundrkind 6mo ago
  Words from one of the world's most infamous delusional liars. Words worth nothing.
queenkjuul 6mo ago
How do you believe this shit. It took Israel a full year of 24/7 indiscriminate murder in Gaza to reach 30,000 dead civilians, and the entire place is rubble as a result. How in the god damn fuck do you think Iran killed that many people in one week without Tehran looking like Gaza? Gullible brainwashed dolts can't even think for two seconds

dzhiurgis 6mo ago

Iran leadership would be honored to die while trying to destroy Israel and save Iran. They don't care about death. It's the same fatalistic mentality as in Russia. They don't give a shit. They almost enjoy suffering as it's part of their ethos.

_DeadFred_ 6mo ago

FYI the IRGC is importing more invaders to prop up it's unpopular occupation regime, this time Pakistani militia are now being recruited into Iran to oppress/occupy the Iranian population and act in service of the occupation theocratic government: "The roaming of the Islamic Republic's proxies in Iran; entry of "Zainabiyoun" of Pakistan after "Hashd al-Shaabi" of Iraq and "Fatemiyoun" of Afghanistan Reports of the presence of forces affiliated with the Zainabiyoun Division of Pakistan have been published in various areas of Sistan and Baluchestan province."