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We're days away from the SpaceX IPO that will make Musk even richer than he is now. I don't trust him with that money.

by pstuart 7mo ago

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juleiie 7mo ago
I trust his gargantuan insecurity Sometimes the flaws of someone make him completely predictable. Very trustworthy to repeatedly pour billions in an attempt to become someone he fantasizes to be. There are innumerable amount of assholes in history that sold things we use daily, sometimes at the expense of original inventors. It is hard to cope with the idea that greed, ambition and ruthlessness are the building blocks of everything that stands around us. Sometimes it makes me want to reject everything I know of good and human and feed these traits until they fill the hollow parts of mind with wealth, empty fame and too many lonely sunsets on a private island.
- WalterBright 7mo ago
  His stated and oft-repeated goal is to save mankind by making it interplanetary. It doesn't seem to be about personal aggrandizement. He has built no monuments to himself, has not named his company "Musk Inc", he doesn't run for office, etc. Musk does not own a yacht or even a house. > lonely If he feels lonely, he can message me and I'd treat him to dinner.
  - juleiie 7mo ago
    Well he is a piece of shit no matter what theoretical ideals he holds. I am sure many evil people in history wanted to “save mankind” I don’t think I need to remind you how he treated his transgender daughter and that’s just single example
    - WalterBright 7mo ago
      Steve Jobs rejected his daughter. George Washington declined being crowned king and set the tone for a modest and limited Executive branch. Yet he also owned slaves. Saint Thomas More burned people at the stake. You'll have a hard time finding any faultless people.
      - juleiie 7mo ago
        It's pretty annoying to be a fan of space in 2026. On the one hand you have NASA, a shadow of its former self. Clearly there is something deeply dysfunctional with it. On the other you have an old drug addict, still functional, thankfully, dead set on antagonizing every possible person alive. (I guess dems will probably shut his space program down after they win? Can he even get on good standing with them at all after everything that has transpired?) Shit CEO vs Money pit
        WalterBright 7mo ago
        Good luck finding a saint. You won't find any.
        juleiie 7mo ago
        I would settle for just a decent human being
        WalterBright 7mo ago
        What do you think of Musk's Neuralink company that has enabled quadriplegics to control things with their mind? What do you think of Musk's Tesla that has apparently saved 20,000 lives? Who meets your criteria?
        juleiie 7mo ago
        I don’t care about some imaginary balance of souls. Leave that to god if he exists. The ability to save someone doesn’t enable you to senselessly hurt many others. You should read Ursula K. Le Guin's: "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas A healthy person or society does not find enjoyment or entertainment in the torture of another. The act of senseless infliction of harm betrays a lack of empathy and moral spine, which is fundamentally incompatible with the role of a "savior" or truly moral agent. The good he does doesn't require the harm he causes, so the good cannot justify it.
brightball 7mo ago
Last time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk.
- biaachmonkie 7mo ago
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  - WalterBright 7mo ago
    Another recent commentator wrote here that he's responsible for "millions" of dead via the curtailing of USAID. I'm a bit skeptical of estimates that vary by 3 orders of magnitude.
    - Teever 7mo ago
      For the sake of argument let’s say that number was accurate. How would you feel about that?
      - WalterBright 7mo ago
        I'm not engaging in convicting people without concrete evidence.
        Teever 7mo ago
        I think that the reason you reject the claims and won’t even entertain the notion as a hypothetical is because you know deep down that you’ve been duped by Musk and can’t admit that fact publicly. Should incontrovertible proof of the magnitude of the atrocities that he has committed come to light you’ll pivot and say that it was worth it because he’s taking us to Mars. That’s how conmen work and Musk is a damn good one. The sooner you can admit that you’re duped is the sooner you’ll stop letting yourself be duped by him. I’ll admit that I was duped by him too. I used to believe his stuff and this dream of mars.
rdtsc 7mo ago
How do we take it away from him?

We're days away from the SpaceX IPO that will make Musk even richer than he is now. I don't trust him with that money.

by pstuart 7mo ago

We're days away from the SpaceX IPO that will make Musk even richer than he is now. I don't trust him with that money.

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juleiie 7mo ago

I trust his gargantuan insecurity Sometimes the flaws of someone make him completely predictable. Very trustworthy to repeatedly pour billions in an attempt to become someone he fantasizes to be. There are innumerable amount of assholes in history that sold things we use daily, sometimes at the expense of original inventors. It is hard to cope with the idea that greed, ambition and ruthlessness are the building blocks of everything that stands around us. Sometimes it makes me want to reject everything I know of good and human and feed these traits until they fill the hollow parts of mind with wealth, empty fame and too many lonely sunsets on a private island.

WalterBright 7mo ago
His stated and oft-repeated goal is to save mankind by making it interplanetary. It doesn't seem to be about personal aggrandizement. He has built no monuments to himself, has not named his company "Musk Inc", he doesn't run for office, etc. Musk does not own a yacht or even a house. > lonely If he feels lonely, he can message me and I'd treat him to dinner.
- juleiie 7mo ago
  Well he is a piece of shit no matter what theoretical ideals he holds. I am sure many evil people in history wanted to “save mankind” I don’t think I need to remind you how he treated his transgender daughter and that’s just single example
  - WalterBright 7mo ago
    Steve Jobs rejected his daughter. George Washington declined being crowned king and set the tone for a modest and limited Executive branch. Yet he also owned slaves. Saint Thomas More burned people at the stake. You'll have a hard time finding any faultless people.
    - juleiie 7mo ago
      It's pretty annoying to be a fan of space in 2026. On the one hand you have NASA, a shadow of its former self. Clearly there is something deeply dysfunctional with it. On the other you have an old drug addict, still functional, thankfully, dead set on antagonizing every possible person alive. (I guess dems will probably shut his space program down after they win? Can he even get on good standing with them at all after everything that has transpired?) Shit CEO vs Money pit
      - WalterBright 7mo ago
        Good luck finding a saint. You won't find any.
        juleiie 7mo ago
        I would settle for just a decent human being
        WalterBright 7mo ago
        What do you think of Musk's Neuralink company that has enabled quadriplegics to control things with their mind? What do you think of Musk's Tesla that has apparently saved 20,000 lives? Who meets your criteria?
        juleiie 7mo ago
        I don’t care about some imaginary balance of souls. Leave that to god if he exists. The ability to save someone doesn’t enable you to senselessly hurt many others. You should read Ursula K. Le Guin's: "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas A healthy person or society does not find enjoyment or entertainment in the torture of another. The act of senseless infliction of harm betrays a lack of empathy and moral spine, which is fundamentally incompatible with the role of a "savior" or truly moral agent. The good he does doesn't require the harm he causes, so the good cannot justify it.

brightball 7mo ago

Last time he got a bunch of money he used it to fund SpaceX and Tesla. Now also Neuralink. It’s hard to imagine anyone else who’s done more for the planet with his money than Musk.

biaachmonkie 7mo ago
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- WalterBright 7mo ago
  Another recent commentator wrote here that he's responsible for "millions" of dead via the curtailing of USAID. I'm a bit skeptical of estimates that vary by 3 orders of magnitude.
  - Teever 7mo ago
    For the sake of argument let’s say that number was accurate. How would you feel about that?
    - WalterBright 7mo ago
      I'm not engaging in convicting people without concrete evidence.
      - Teever 7mo ago
        I think that the reason you reject the claims and won’t even entertain the notion as a hypothetical is because you know deep down that you’ve been duped by Musk and can’t admit that fact publicly. Should incontrovertible proof of the magnitude of the atrocities that he has committed come to light you’ll pivot and say that it was worth it because he’s taking us to Mars. That’s how conmen work and Musk is a damn good one. The sooner you can admit that you’re duped is the sooner you’ll stop letting yourself be duped by him. I’ll admit that I was duped by him too. I used to believe his stuff and this dream of mars.

rdtsc 7mo ago

How do we take it away from him?