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Costco is a rare example of a large company that’s actually pretty well respected for not doing shady things. I doubt customers have much standing here. They w
by cmiles8 7mo ago
Costco is a rare example of a large company that’s actually pretty well respected for not doing shady things.
I doubt customers have much standing here. They were free to not buy items if they didn’t like the price. And I do believe Costco will use this to lower prices vs just pocketing the money.
- Hendrikto 7mo ago> They were free to not buy items if they didn’t like the price. Customers (had to) accept prices under the assumption that the money went to the government, who are supposed to use it for the public good. You can easily argue that they would not have accepted the same price, knowing that it would benefit a for-profit corporation.
- louisbourgault 7mo agoYes, once I would have agreed. But lately, I'd prefer my money to be going to Costco by far over the us government, and I imagine quite a lot of Costco's members (they are known for being Democrat donors, and a well liked company) feel the same. Massive caveat that I'm not American, it just seems like public sentiment doesn't broadly think that all the money going to the US government is used for "public good "
- matt-attack 7mo agoThen why do they continue to lobby for higher taxes, etc. You cannot do that if you simultaneously feel the government is the not the best custodian of those marginal dollars.
- lsaferite 7mo agoDid your receipt say anything about a government tariff? The government was busy telling the hoi polloi that foreign companies were paying the tariff. They fought US companies that wanted to list the tariffs on receipts. They were actively suppressing clarity on the matter to end buyers. Your claim that customers assumed the higher prices was going to the government is specious or simply misinformed.
- laughingcurve 7mo agoWait are you saying that because the Government lied and blocked corporations from exercising freedom of speech and commerce that therefore the government couldn't possibly be seen to be collecting the funds? Your logic is that if the Government lies we are assumed to have believed it and therefore have no recourse. Most people (not all) are nowhere near as dumb as you seem to think they are.
- lsaferite 7mo agoI'm saying that semantically a business that simply raised base prices to cover their increased costs cannot be attacked by using the logic that "I assumed the price increase was going to the government" unless that was specifically enumerated on your receipts. What you assume is on you. Had the business been listing tariffs directly on receipts it would be a very different conversation.
- mothballed 7mo agoCostco explicitly itemized in their public earnings call that part of the price increase was the tariff. "When we looked at -- we also source flowers from Central and South America. We looked at that item and decided that while we were able to offset some of the tariffs through similar activity that we did increase some price there because we felt that, that was something that the member would be able to absorb and it was more of a discretionary item there." So Costco was straight up telling the public that when they raise price part of that is to pay these government tax. You keep talking about assumptions but want us to ignore that you're asking us to make alternative assumptions about the factual representations made by Costco in order to find parity with your argument.
- lsaferite 7mo agoCostco was telling it's investors why they had to raise prices. That's a conversation with investors about business costs. Customers purchasing from them are on the revenue side and there was no line item on receipts listing tariffs, just increased prices. As a customer if you assumed that 100% of a price increase is because the business is paying tariffs, then you are almost certainly mistaken. Even if the price increase was 100% because of the tariff, the business made the decision to internally absorb the fees and not directly involve the customer. They absorbed that extra cost of business by increasing prices as needed to maintain business margins within acceptable ranges. TL;DR: A customer paid a unit price for a good from a vendor. The cost the vendor paid or any future refunds they may receive on those costs do not factor into the transaction.
- iAMkenough 7mo agoYou know what they say about assumptions. They don’t hold up in court. Kind of like assuming tariffs are used for public benefit.
- mothballed 7mo agoThen the court is full of shit and double facing. They sure do when it is a conspiracy charge, as long as it is one of the plebs.
- hluska 7mo agoYou may almost think that criminal and civil cases are handled differently.
- mothballed 7mo agoAh yes we can only rely on assumptions when someone's freedom rather than money is on the line.
- iAMkenough 7mo agoWe could rely on facts when making determinations. Like the fact the government said foreign countries were paying for the tariffs.
- mothballed 7mo agoFact: Costco explicitly told the public that part of the price increase in some of their goods was having the customer "absorb" (pay) the price of the tariff.[] "When we looked at -- we also source flowers from Central and South America. We looked at that item and decided that while we were able to offset some of the tariffs through similar activity that we did increase some price there because we felt that, that was something that the member would be able to absorb and it was more of a discretionary item there." [] Q3 2025 earnings call
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- bloppe 7mo agoSure, you could argue that counterfactual, but how is Costco actually implicated? Does Costco have a contract with its members that sets a limit on the margins they can charge? If so, then I suppose they could get sued for breach of contract. If not, as I suspect, then on what grounds could you actually sue them? Just because you feel like a business charges too much doesn't mean you get to sue them.
- canyonero 7mo ago> They were free to not buy items if they didn’t like the price Customers are buying many goods at Costco one might deem as essential (food, toilet paper, etc) in bulk to save on cost. An illegal tax was being collected everywhere and likely at an even higher cost.
- RaftPeople 7mo agoBut they have the choice to buy those from other stores.
- fzeroracer 7mo agoNothing like the 'free to not buy items' argument against a tax illegally levied by the government on most consumer goods. I think people are missing the forest for the trees here and immediately defending a corporation reflexively. The point here is to try and recover money that was illegally gathered by the government. Costco offloaded the tax burden onto the consumers and now they can collect said taxes back from the government.
- SilverElfin 7mo agoCostco does shady things all the time. They just don’t get called out by customers for some weird reason. For example, they often copy some other company’s product blatantly and make it for dirt cheap in places with no labor or environmental laws, and use their retail power to quickly eat into that market. And they’re powerful enough that product manufacturers can’t afford to fight them for stealing designs or IP.
- whattheheckheck 7mo agoWelcome to capitalism?