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I'm not quite sure if the German implementation is possible without mobile devices (couldn't find anything on that at first glance). the Austrian implementation

by wolfi1 6mo ago

I'm not quite sure if the German implementation is possible without mobile devices (couldn't find anything on that at first glance). the Austrian implementation on the other hand does not require a mobile device, if you want to do it on a pc you just need a fido2 token

NanoCoaster 6mo ago
I'm not sure either. I've looked at this other document: https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/eidas-2.0-architekturkonzept/content/ecosystem-vision-and-fundamentals/what-is-the-ecosystem/#german-eid-card-infrastructure-outside-ecosystem https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/eidas-2.0-ar... It seems to imply that the already existing way of authenticating via eID, which is the auth chip present on our ID cards, will still work, if I read it correctly? I understand OP's link to refer to a new, alternative system, that can be used without the ID card. But take this with a grain of salt, I'm not very well informed about the whole topic.
kodebach 6mo ago
As strange as it is, but Austria is quite far ahead in terms of eIDAS since we've had Handysignatur for more than a decade. I wouldn't be surprised, if the Germans are planning to support hardware tokens, but haven't had the time yet.
- 4ad 6mo ago
  > Austria is quite far ahead Yeah, quite ahead in terms of making anonymous phone numbers illegal and requiring the government to know your phone number. And if you don't want to use a smartphone, ID Austria does not work with regular FIDO security keys, you need special ones. Same for the old SmartCard system which didn't work without government-mandated malware.
spragl 6mo ago
I havent looked into the details of either, but what would prevent Germans from using the Austrian implementation?
- wolfi1 6mo ago
  Austria provides their implementation only to people with Austrian citizenship or people working in Austria

by wolfi1 6mo ago

NanoCoaster 6mo ago

I'm not sure either. I've looked at this other document: https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/eidas-2.0-architekturkonzept/content/ecosystem-vision-and-fundamentals/what-is-the-ecosystem/#german-eid-card-infrastructure-outside-ecosystem https://bmi.usercontent.opencode.de/eudi-wallet/eidas-2.0-ar... It seems to imply that the already existing way of authenticating via eID, which is the auth chip present on our ID cards, will still work, if I read it correctly? I understand OP's link to refer to a new, alternative system, that can be used without the ID card. But take this with a grain of salt, I'm not very well informed about the whole topic.

kodebach 6mo ago

As strange as it is, but Austria is quite far ahead in terms of eIDAS since we've had Handysignatur for more than a decade. I wouldn't be surprised, if the Germans are planning to support hardware tokens, but haven't had the time yet.

4ad 6mo ago
> Austria is quite far ahead Yeah, quite ahead in terms of making anonymous phone numbers illegal and requiring the government to know your phone number. And if you don't want to use a smartphone, ID Austria does not work with regular FIDO security keys, you need special ones. Same for the old SmartCard system which didn't work without government-mandated malware.

spragl 6mo ago

I havent looked into the details of either, but what would prevent Germans from using the Austrian implementation?

wolfi1 6mo ago
Austria provides their implementation only to people with Austrian citizenship or people working in Austria