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I have yet to leave a country (well, a state technically) without having to show a passport - with the exception of the Schengen area.

Longhanks 7mo ago
I mean, really not trying to frame this in any way, but asylum seekers do it all the time.
- einpoklum 7mo ago
  Ok, fair enough, but if I were German - I don't really think I would asylum anywhere on the basis of Germany maybe intending to conscript me in the future.
  - grumbelbart 7mo ago
    I'm reasonably sure Russia would take you.
    - einpoklum 7mo ago
      I rather doubt it, but - can you back that up by some examples at least?
wat10000 7mo ago
That's mostly because transport companies have to pay to ship you back if you get turned away at the border, so they will want to see your permission to enter your destination country before you leave. I've traveled internationally a fair bit and I've never had to show my passport to government officials when leaving the US.
- MarsIronPI 7mo ago
  Don't the TSA count as government agents? I don't have a problem with these checks, but I do believe the TSA does them, no?
  - wat10000 7mo ago
    TSA needs some form of ID but they’ll accept non-passport ID even if you’re traveling internationally.
    - MarsIronPI 7mo ago
      Ah, that's right. But don't airlines check passports then? I vaguely remember needing to provide a passport at boarding time.
      - wat10000 7mo ago
        Yes, that's what I said above. The US government doesn't give a toss, but the airline has to fly you back if you're refused entry at your destination, so they will do their best to ensure you have the documents you need.
    - voxic11 7mo ago
      TSA doesn't even need an ID, if you don't have one they just take your information and check it against some databases to "confirm" your identity.
      - wat10000 7mo ago
        Would they do that for an international departure? They know where you’re flying, and I’d think they’d just tell you to stop being an idiot and show them the passport you obviously must have. But policies can be weird, so maybe not.
BoneShard 7mo ago
I can drive to Canada with my driver license.

Longhanks 7mo ago

I mean, really not trying to frame this in any way, but asylum seekers do it all the time.

einpoklum 7mo ago
Ok, fair enough, but if I were German - I don't really think I would asylum anywhere on the basis of Germany maybe intending to conscript me in the future.
- grumbelbart 7mo ago
  I'm reasonably sure Russia would take you.
  - einpoklum 7mo ago
    I rather doubt it, but - can you back that up by some examples at least?

wat10000 7mo ago

That's mostly because transport companies have to pay to ship you back if you get turned away at the border, so they will want to see your permission to enter your destination country before you leave. I've traveled internationally a fair bit and I've never had to show my passport to government officials when leaving the US.

MarsIronPI 7mo ago
Don't the TSA count as government agents? I don't have a problem with these checks, but I do believe the TSA does them, no?
- wat10000 7mo ago
  TSA needs some form of ID but they’ll accept non-passport ID even if you’re traveling internationally.
  - MarsIronPI 7mo ago
    Ah, that's right. But don't airlines check passports then? I vaguely remember needing to provide a passport at boarding time.
    - wat10000 7mo ago
      Yes, that's what I said above. The US government doesn't give a toss, but the airline has to fly you back if you're refused entry at your destination, so they will do their best to ensure you have the documents you need.
  - voxic11 7mo ago
    TSA doesn't even need an ID, if you don't have one they just take your information and check it against some databases to "confirm" your identity.
    - wat10000 7mo ago
      Would they do that for an international departure? They know where you’re flying, and I’d think they’d just tell you to stop being an idiot and show them the passport you obviously must have. But policies can be weird, so maybe not.

BoneShard 7mo ago

I can drive to Canada with my driver license.