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Busification, when?
by cocodill 6mo ago
Busification, when?
- bagels 6mo agoI guess this is a new word basically meaning conscription by force. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busification
- ben_w 6mo ago> conscription by force Is there any unforced conscription? By definition conscription is compulsory.
- nick486 6mo agoits a question of degree. going to the barracks when you get called up by mail vs getting grabbed off the street, punched in the face and shoved into a bus headed for the training center.
- ryandrake 6mo agoBut if you don't do #1, then #2 will happen involuntarily, right? So conscription ultimately = physically forced.
- jltsiren 6mo agoThey will probably go to prison instead, like some of my friends did. Giving military training to people who definitely don't want it can be a bad idea for many reasons.
- samus 6mo agoUnmotivated draftees are mostly used as a workforce. Especially in modern warfare, soldiers without significant training are worse than useless, as the wrong action at the wrong time can compromise the stealth and mission of their unit.
- phyzome 6mo agoMake someone a slave and give them a loaded gun, what could go wrong?
- lifestyleguru 6mo agoIf you ever wonder what is the role of professional army in case of any serious invasion or war. Their role is to hunt for conscripts, kidnap them, and transport them to the army recruitment centers.
- breppp 6mo agoI don't know where you are getting this, but this is very much not the role of professional armies in most invasions historically Usually when your country is invaded you don't stay in your silicon valley privileged mindset and you go to conscription willingly
- lifestyleguru 6mo agoSilicon valley privileged mindset in Europe, what are you talking about?! You mean Piotr, Ivan, and Andrei working remotely for American company for equivalent of 60k USD annually? Most armies in Europe, especially in post-Communist part of it, are nepotist corrupted structures. People go there for tax and housing benefits and early retirement. They are not even particularly fit, skilled, or trained to fight with an invader. Especially in these countries men aged 18-45 have absolutely nothing to fight for.
- rvnx 6mo agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busification https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busification - the definition of consent is very stretched.
- breppp 6mo agoThats not how most of the manpower gets there, without even knowing the Ukraine example, I venture to guess based on the superior morale of Ukrainian forces, that most are drafted willingly. This still does not prove the very general statement GP made, which doesn't align with draft reality in historical wars
- Operating4762 6mo ago