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No they haven't. You've likely been misled by seeing still images of their hand in that position, whereas if you see the video, then it's clearly nothing like a

No they haven't. You've likely been misled by seeing still images of their hand in that position, whereas if you see the video, then it's clearly nothing like a Nazi salute. Meanwhile, the video of Musk makes it incredibly clear that it's a Nazi salute and he has not denied that as far as I know. His politics also seem to align very much with white supremacy and the far right.

RickJWagner 7mo ago
Here’s a denial from Musk. Plus the Anti-Defamation League clearing Musk. Plus a Democrat congressman clearing Musk. All this from a left-leaning publication. The ADL alone should give reasonable people reason to give Musk benefit of the doubt. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-01-21/musk-says-gestures-at-trump-inauguration-werent-nazi-salutes https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-01-21/musk-says-...
- ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago
  That doesn't seem like a denial from Musk, but instead he's just accusing others, but the article doesn't include specific quotes. From what I remember of the incident, he specifically didn't deny that they were Nazi salutes, but merely hinted that they may have been a Roman salute, though that's pretty much the same thing. I can't recall any time that he's tried to distance himself from Nazis or their ideology. Although the ADL didn't think that it was a Nazi salute, most other Jewish organisations thought that it was and Germany very much condemned it, so on balance reasonable people should conclude that it's generally thought of as a Nazi salute. Also, former ADL national director Abraham Foxman described the gesture as a "Heil Hitler Nazi salute". Reasonable people can simply watch the video and see for themselves - it very much looked exactly like a Nazi salute to me.
- nixon_why69 7mo ago
  The ADL is much more of a far right Israeli lobby these days than anything else. Of course they support the administration.
- breve 7mo ago
  > Here’s a denial from Musk. Here's video of Musk performing his fascist salutes. He did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, he grunted with the effort, and he did it twice just to make sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc There's no denying it.

RickJWagner 7mo ago

Here’s a denial from Musk. Plus the Anti-Defamation League clearing Musk. Plus a Democrat congressman clearing Musk. All this from a left-leaning publication. The ADL alone should give reasonable people reason to give Musk benefit of the doubt. https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-01-21/musk-says-gestures-at-trump-inauguration-werent-nazi-salutes https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2025-01-21/musk-says-...

ndsipa_pomu 7mo ago
That doesn't seem like a denial from Musk, but instead he's just accusing others, but the article doesn't include specific quotes. From what I remember of the incident, he specifically didn't deny that they were Nazi salutes, but merely hinted that they may have been a Roman salute, though that's pretty much the same thing. I can't recall any time that he's tried to distance himself from Nazis or their ideology. Although the ADL didn't think that it was a Nazi salute, most other Jewish organisations thought that it was and Germany very much condemned it, so on balance reasonable people should conclude that it's generally thought of as a Nazi salute. Also, former ADL national director Abraham Foxman described the gesture as a "Heil Hitler Nazi salute". Reasonable people can simply watch the video and see for themselves - it very much looked exactly like a Nazi salute to me.
nixon_why69 7mo ago
The ADL is much more of a far right Israeli lobby these days than anything else. Of course they support the administration.
breve 7mo ago
> Here’s a denial from Musk. Here's video of Musk performing his fascist salutes. He did it deliberately, he did it with gusto, he grunted with the effort, and he did it twice just to make sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smQNNo2a9xc There's no denying it.