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> You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits. They could
by zozbot234 7mo ago
> You are paying to be using that limit some of the time. There are 5 hour windows when you are sleeping and can't use it. There are weekend limits.
They could easily structure their limits to enforce that kind of pattern fairly on both human and automated users. They could e.g. force a cooldown period between your daily activity bursts, by decreeing that continued heavy use on a 24h basis would count exponentially more towards your limit. That would be transparent and force the claws to lighten their load below that of a typical human user. We're talking about a company that's worth hundreds of billions of dollars and targeting highly sophisticated enterprise users, not consumers; it's just not credible that they'd be technically unable to set that up.
- asdfaoeu 7mo agoOr alternatively just pay based on what you use? I.e. $/tokens.
- Wowfunhappy 7mo agoThey offer that, API pricing. Or "extra usage" which they're saying you can still use for OpenClaw. It's really expensive!
- sroussey 7mo agoEveryone want to take their subsidies from the consumer subs and use them to avoid paying the real costs. Even the API pricing is subsidized by investors. When that stop, pricing will escalate.
- jmalicki 7mo agoIs API pricing subsidized on a unit basis? Most estimates I've seen have shown that API usage seems to be at least unit profitable (paying for infra and electricity, not R&D)
- Clide20x_gal_26 7mo ago[dead]
- sroussey 7mo agoI believe it was 2 years ago. But costs have risen a lot in the last couple of years but prices have decreased with competition.