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Thanks for proving my point, as I was booking for 2pax, which is about $3500/pax indeed. And the 140k pts was total for both (+ ~$1200 total for fees, etc., in

by borski 6mo ago

Thanks for proving my point, as I was booking for 2pax, which is about $3500/pax indeed. And the 140k pts was total for both (+ ~$1200 total for fees, etc., in the interest of full disclosure). I was booking over 3 weeks, late August to early September, and I booked on KLM/AF. I had specific date ranges I needed to hit. Again, you don't have to like it. That's fine. But consider that "I think points are nonsense" isn't the person this was built for. :)

SFO_SIN 6mo ago
> Thanks for proving my point, as I was booking for 2pax, which is about $3500/pax indeed. And the 140k pts was total for both (+ ~$1200 total for fees, etc., in the interest of full disclosure). Again, sounds like you're trying too hard to justify 2 cpp vs 3 cpp. Cash price $2,900/pax including fees, Aug 19 to Sep 9 (21 days), Turkish airlines lie-flat business round trip with nice short 1h30m layover at a brand new airport. https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/fewZVhBFrtMTn7WQ6 https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/fewZVhBFrtMTn7WQ6 Versus your 70k points + $600 cash fees per person? Especially with kids, or with high income, you stop caring about $1,000/person and care more about simplicity or having the trip vs not (e.g., departing on Friday cash vs Wednesday points) And if one is rich with points (1 million+), then one should have no problem spending 250k points one-way business on the date of their choice. Otherwise, they can't consume their point balance.
- borski 6mo ago
  Okay. Like I said, you don’t have to like it. I was happy with the deal I found because my goal was saving cash, and using points I already had. I am not trying to prove a point past that. $600/pax is a lot less than $2900/pax. Saving $4600 total to use 140k points is, indeed, very useful for me and a lot of other people. You have other desires and needs. Cool. You could also build those into your request, but like I said: I don’t see the point you’re trying to make other than “I don’t want to like this tool because I don’t like points in general,” which is fine. Do your thing! And I’ll do mine. :)
- 0wis 6mo ago
  Related indirectly : Turkish airlines hub (Istanbul airport) is a scam. Everything there costs at least twice the price it should. Especially food which is basically what everyone does during layover. Think 30€ for a burger or a kebab. « Brand new » is not an argument by itself. Business is a must, or at least booking a lounge.
  - chronic29521 6mo ago
    > Everything there costs at least twice the price it should. Especially food which is basically what everyone does during layover. Business class passengers don't pay for food. They are eating free buffet in the lounge.
chronc6393 6mo ago
lol you conveniently left out 50% of the ticket fees
- borski 6mo ago
  $600/pax (which I disclosed) is hardly 50% of the ticket fees, which were, as I mentioned, $3500/pax or so otherwise.
  - chronic29521 6mo ago
    your 70k points + $600/pax is equivalent to $1300 so $600 fees is 46% of the points + cash you paid you could've cashed out 70k points as $700, therefore the 70k points becomes cash in the math
    - borski 6mo ago
      OK, so you've calculated I've saved $2200/pax. Fine. For the record, I already took that into account. My goal with these flights was to save cash, because at the moment, cash flow is the issue I'm solving for. At other times, I have other priorities. I can't believe I have to say this, but... YMMV, I guess.

by borski 6mo ago

SFO_SIN 6mo ago

> Thanks for proving my point, as I was booking for 2pax, which is about $3500/pax indeed. And the 140k pts was total for both (+ ~$1200 total for fees, etc., in the interest of full disclosure). Again, sounds like you're trying too hard to justify 2 cpp vs 3 cpp. Cash price $2,900/pax including fees, Aug 19 to Sep 9 (21 days), Turkish airlines lie-flat business round trip with nice short 1h30m layover at a brand new airport. https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/fewZVhBFrtMTn7WQ6 https://www.google.com/travel/flights/s/fewZVhBFrtMTn7WQ6 Versus your 70k points + $600 cash fees per person? Especially with kids, or with high income, you stop caring about $1,000/person and care more about simplicity or having the trip vs not (e.g., departing on Friday cash vs Wednesday points) And if one is rich with points (1 million+), then one should have no problem spending 250k points one-way business on the date of their choice. Otherwise, they can't consume their point balance.

borski 6mo ago
Okay. Like I said, you don’t have to like it. I was happy with the deal I found because my goal was saving cash, and using points I already had. I am not trying to prove a point past that. $600/pax is a lot less than $2900/pax. Saving $4600 total to use 140k points is, indeed, very useful for me and a lot of other people. You have other desires and needs. Cool. You could also build those into your request, but like I said: I don’t see the point you’re trying to make other than “I don’t want to like this tool because I don’t like points in general,” which is fine. Do your thing! And I’ll do mine. :)
0wis 6mo ago
Related indirectly : Turkish airlines hub (Istanbul airport) is a scam. Everything there costs at least twice the price it should. Especially food which is basically what everyone does during layover. Think 30€ for a burger or a kebab. « Brand new » is not an argument by itself. Business is a must, or at least booking a lounge.
- chronic29521 6mo ago
  > Everything there costs at least twice the price it should. Especially food which is basically what everyone does during layover. Business class passengers don't pay for food. They are eating free buffet in the lounge.

chronc6393 6mo ago

lol you conveniently left out 50% of the ticket fees

borski 6mo ago
$600/pax (which I disclosed) is hardly 50% of the ticket fees, which were, as I mentioned, $3500/pax or so otherwise.
- chronic29521 6mo ago
  your 70k points + $600/pax is equivalent to $1300 so $600 fees is 46% of the points + cash you paid you could've cashed out 70k points as $700, therefore the 70k points becomes cash in the math
  - borski 6mo ago
    OK, so you've calculated I've saved $2200/pax. Fine. For the record, I already took that into account. My goal with these flights was to save cash, because at the moment, cash flow is the issue I'm solving for. At other times, I have other priorities. I can't believe I have to say this, but... YMMV, I guess.