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No, the point isn't just to stop legal action against ICE, it's also to go after anyone who posts drone footage that goes viral. Party of free speech, btw.

youknownothing 7mo ago
yeah, that too, good point.
gzread 7mo ago
We should make a website outside the US for posting drone footage of ICE anonymously.
- my_throwaway23 7mo ago
  Put it in Sweden[0]. At least you'd have de jure source protection. [0]: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Källskydd https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Källskydd
  - Y-bar 7mo ago
    Yes, but this is in effect since 2023: > Proposed new law could see Swedish media prosecuted for espionage > Swedish media outlets who uncover news which damages Sweden's relations abroad could be charged with spying, if a controversial law gets the go-ahead. https://www.thelocal.se/20171207/new-law-could-see-swedish-media-prosecuted-for-espionage/ https://www.thelocal.se/20171207/new-law-could-see-swedish-m...
    - my_throwaway23 7mo ago
      Note: de jure, not de facto. I'm pretty sure most news outlets would cave with the right pressure, with or without any new laws. On top of that is the fact that the department for foreign affairs is the department where the line between ministry and department is the thinest* - I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, in such a scenario they'd be asked, especially by the US, to put a stop to something, they'd actually put (unofficial, undocumented) pressure on the entity or person in question. * As opposed to most democracies ministerial rule is highly frowned upon in Sweden, and as a minister you can't issue official decrees that govern how the department itself interpret laws or conduct its business. Instead you (e.g. the parliament) change laws and society act accordingly.
      - Y-bar 7mo ago
        > Note: de jure, not de facto. It always is until it is too late.
amluto 7mo ago
It would be very strange for the government to sue someone for redistributing videos on the basis that they had been taken from an illegally flown drone.
- daveguy 7mo ago
  Well, it's a good thing we aren't living under a very strange, corrupt, and incompetent government. (/s if it wasn't obvious, and anyone who needed that should try changing the channel every once in a while)

youknownothing 7mo ago

yeah, that too, good point.

gzread 7mo ago

We should make a website outside the US for posting drone footage of ICE anonymously.

my_throwaway23 7mo ago
Put it in Sweden[0]. At least you'd have de jure source protection. [0]: https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Källskydd https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Källskydd
- Y-bar 7mo ago
  Yes, but this is in effect since 2023: > Proposed new law could see Swedish media prosecuted for espionage > Swedish media outlets who uncover news which damages Sweden's relations abroad could be charged with spying, if a controversial law gets the go-ahead. https://www.thelocal.se/20171207/new-law-could-see-swedish-media-prosecuted-for-espionage/ https://www.thelocal.se/20171207/new-law-could-see-swedish-m...
  - my_throwaway23 7mo ago
    Note: de jure, not de facto. I'm pretty sure most news outlets would cave with the right pressure, with or without any new laws. On top of that is the fact that the department for foreign affairs is the department where the line between ministry and department is the thinest* - I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if, in such a scenario they'd be asked, especially by the US, to put a stop to something, they'd actually put (unofficial, undocumented) pressure on the entity or person in question. * As opposed to most democracies ministerial rule is highly frowned upon in Sweden, and as a minister you can't issue official decrees that govern how the department itself interpret laws or conduct its business. Instead you (e.g. the parliament) change laws and society act accordingly.
    - Y-bar 7mo ago
      > Note: de jure, not de facto. It always is until it is too late.

amluto 7mo ago

It would be very strange for the government to sue someone for redistributing videos on the basis that they had been taken from an illegally flown drone.

daveguy 7mo ago
Well, it's a good thing we aren't living under a very strange, corrupt, and incompetent government. (/s if it wasn't obvious, and anyone who needed that should try changing the channel every once in a while)