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To all the folks here complaining that there is plenty of talent in the US to fill those roles: Honestly tell me: Would you ever apply to Oracle for a job?

by BeetleB 7mo ago

throwaway613746 7mo ago
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avidiax 7mo ago
I actually have applied, and I got the offer. And I didn't take it. Because Oracle is known for poor working conditions. Why can Oracle continue to hire good talent despite offering poor working conditions? H1-B. Is it circular? Absolutely. There really should be a strict maximum percentage of visa hires for any particular job type at a company. Say, 2x the overall average for that job category, and never to exceed 30%. If they still need more labor, then they need to attract and train local talent rather than relying solely on overseas talent.
- declan_roberts 7mo ago
  They have no incentive to improve their compensation and working conditions while they can import unlimited indentured servants from poor countries.
- ghighi7878 7mo ago
  Do you think they would instead shift to India if these measures continue. The talent is there. 80% of the for talent is currently in US due to H1b but will move back to India. And it might be cheaper to just shift offices to India
  - 0x1ceb00da 7mo ago
    No way. Because then the executives will have to move to india as well.
    - rv3392 7mo ago
      No they won't. Oracle already has many teams that report to a people manager in India/Mexico/etc. and then dotted line report to another manager in the USA who actually calls the shots.
fhn 7mo ago
If your haven't been paid in a 6 months, then yes? A job is a means to an end - you don't have love or even like your job.
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smsm42 7mo ago
I probably would if they had something in my area of expertise and decent pay/benefits. Then again, isn't the point of this exercise to avoid doing exactly that?
pea 7mo ago
Oracle hire some extremely good people and pay very well
qwerpy 7mo ago
I was able to retire in my early 40s because Oracle paid early OCI engineers very well, in order to poach them from FAANGs. I wouldn’t recommend it now but “apply to Oracle for a job” did work out for some of us :)
duxup 7mo ago
How long have I been out of work in this scenario? Eventually yeah.

To all the folks here complaining that there is plenty of talent in the US to fill those roles: Honestly tell me: Would you ever apply to Oracle for a job?

by BeetleB 7mo ago

To all the folks here complaining that there is plenty of talent in the US to fill those roles: Honestly tell me: Would you ever apply to Oracle for a job?

throwaway613746 7mo ago

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avidiax 7mo ago

I actually have applied, and I got the offer. And I didn't take it. Because Oracle is known for poor working conditions. Why can Oracle continue to hire good talent despite offering poor working conditions? H1-B. Is it circular? Absolutely. There really should be a strict maximum percentage of visa hires for any particular job type at a company. Say, 2x the overall average for that job category, and never to exceed 30%. If they still need more labor, then they need to attract and train local talent rather than relying solely on overseas talent.

declan_roberts 7mo ago
They have no incentive to improve their compensation and working conditions while they can import unlimited indentured servants from poor countries.
ghighi7878 7mo ago
Do you think they would instead shift to India if these measures continue. The talent is there. 80% of the for talent is currently in US due to H1b but will move back to India. And it might be cheaper to just shift offices to India
- 0x1ceb00da 7mo ago
  No way. Because then the executives will have to move to india as well.
  - rv3392 7mo ago
    No they won't. Oracle already has many teams that report to a people manager in India/Mexico/etc. and then dotted line report to another manager in the USA who actually calls the shots.

fhn 7mo ago

If your haven't been paid in a 6 months, then yes? A job is a means to an end - you don't have love or even like your job.

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smsm42 7mo ago

I probably would if they had something in my area of expertise and decent pay/benefits. Then again, isn't the point of this exercise to avoid doing exactly that?

pea 7mo ago

Oracle hire some extremely good people and pay very well

qwerpy 7mo ago

I was able to retire in my early 40s because Oracle paid early OCI engineers very well, in order to poach them from FAANGs. I wouldn’t recommend it now but “apply to Oracle for a job” did work out for some of us :)

duxup 7mo ago

How long have I been out of work in this scenario? Eventually yeah.