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if you dont colo your own servers you don't own anything.
by kelsey98765431 6mo ago
if you dont colo your own servers you don't own anything.
- stavros 6mo agoWhy would I want to own a cut-off datacenter in Dubai?
- duskwuff 6mo ago... with some extra holes in it, no less.
- xoa 6mo ago>if you dont colo your own servers you don't own anything. I'm confused, what does ownership have to do with this particular failure mode? The issue here is a (for many) unforeseen new tradeoff involved in centralization. Colocating at a central place has the exact same tradeoff in this case: bandwidth is vastly more available and cheaper towards the core, and there are significant amortization gains to be had with a lot of basic shared infra. But it's also one big structure holding a lot of computers and infra everyone is depending on, that's the whole point of it! We're all sharing network backbone and power filtering/redundancy and so on and so forth, vs paying for that separately. That means a missile or drone or bomb hit to the building still hits all of us whether we own the servers there or we're running workloads on someone else's servers. The only responses are either central counter measures or decentralization. Both have significant costs and complexity, that's why it wasn't just done proactively right?
- indolering 6mo agoI think it's a joke: you REALLY don't want to own your own servers.
- lta 6mo agoI don't think it is. There are many many cases where you do want to own them. The people you rent yours from are making a shit load of money so it doesn't sound that bad of an idea
- sophacles 6mo agoI buy lots of things from people who make a pile of money from low margin goods/services sheerly on scale. There are many things i could not reproduce more cheaply from constituent parts, even if i value my time at $0. This includes things I have expertise in.
- rcxdude 6mo agoAWS is clearly not in a low-margin business, though.
- onoesworkacct 6mo agoyou're going to save money by having your own physical servers?
- integralid 6mo agoYes, a lot of money in fact.
- brianwawok 6mo agoIt sometimes makes financial sense to own your own servers
- UltraSane 6mo agoYou do if you need absolute control over data location, isolation, and physical access.
- rcxdude 6mo agoThe challenges of doing so are often significantly overstated. It can make a lot of sense to own them.
- postepowanieadm 6mo agoYour servers also may get hit with a bomb/missle.
- pvtmert 6mo agoI don't think co-locating with AWS or any other DC in Middle-East would help in this case. Unless you bring your own missile defence network, you are vulnerable. In the case of if you could bring your own missile-defence-network, then you probably don't need co-location anyway. (There is nothing "co", it's just location you build & operate, with your Patriot or whatever)
- NooneAtAll3 6mo agoboolean "you are vulnerable" means nothing, because it's always True spreading out decreases risk, concentration increases it
- legitster 6mo agoYou should have the opposite takeaway - if you don't have redundancy in the cloud you don't actually have uptime.
- UltraSane 6mo ago"If you don't colo your own generators you don't own anything."