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Meanwhile this March we saw 15k manufacturing jobs, 26k construction jobs, and 91k healthcare and education jobs added [0]. Those are the voters that matter (u

Meanwhile this March we saw 15k manufacturing jobs, 26k construction jobs, and 91k healthcare and education jobs added [0]. Those are the voters that matter (unionized, geographically spread out, didn't price everyone else out via remote work) - not SWEs. [0] - https://www.ft.com/content/82c1795b-704a-4da3-82ec-2f9cd52de01e https://www.ft.com/content/82c1795b-704a-4da3-82ec-2f9cd52de...

dominotw 7mo ago
construction, hospital nurses and daycare workers are the avialble jobs? so depressing and scary
- guzfip 7mo ago
  Yeah you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week to be even remotely close to what you were making before?
  - alephnerd 7mo ago
    > Yeah you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week These are union jobs where hours worked don't extend beyond 50 hours including overtime and with significantly lower barrier to entry compared to software. Why should American SWEs earn more than Accountants (around $80k), Teachers (around $70k), or Mechanical Engineers (around $80k)? It's this kind of attitude that makes non-techies feel schadenfreude. Techies moan and moan, yet in reality we became the capital elite - a median TC of $190K [0] does make you the capital elite in a country where the median household income is $80k [1]. Even investment bankers have a similar TC to SWEs [2] - especially if you don't work for a Bulge Bracket or Elite Boutique. [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-... [1] - https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-286.html https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-28... [2] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/investment-banker?countryId=254&country=254 https://www.levels.fyi/t/investment-banker?countryId=254&cou...
    - sapphicsnail 7mo ago
      Just because someone has it worse doesn't mean you should accept bad things happening.
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- alephnerd 7mo ago
  > so depressing and scary Union jobs with set hours and lower barriers to entry than software while offering middle class salaries? It's so horrible /s. It's this attitude that makes people who don't have stakes in the software industry feel schadenfreude.
  - wildzzz 7mo ago
    The vast majority of those people are not union.

dominotw 7mo ago

construction, hospital nurses and daycare workers are the avialble jobs? so depressing and scary

guzfip 7mo ago
Yeah you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week to be even remotely close to what you were making before?
- alephnerd 7mo ago
  > Yeah you don’t want to work 60+ hours a week These are union jobs where hours worked don't extend beyond 50 hours including overtime and with significantly lower barrier to entry compared to software. Why should American SWEs earn more than Accountants (around $80k), Teachers (around $70k), or Mechanical Engineers (around $80k)? It's this kind of attitude that makes non-techies feel schadenfreude. Techies moan and moan, yet in reality we became the capital elite - a median TC of $190K [0] does make you the capital elite in a country where the median household income is $80k [1]. Even investment bankers have a similar TC to SWEs [2] - especially if you don't work for a Bulge Bracket or Elite Boutique. [0] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-states https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/united-... [1] - https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-286.html https://www.census.gov/library/publications/2025/demo/p60-28... [2] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/investment-banker?countryId=254&country=254 https://www.levels.fyi/t/investment-banker?countryId=254&cou...
  - sapphicsnail 7mo ago
    Just because someone has it worse doesn't mean you should accept bad things happening.
  - deleted 7mo ago
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alephnerd 7mo ago
> so depressing and scary Union jobs with set hours and lower barriers to entry than software while offering middle class salaries? It's so horrible /s. It's this attitude that makes people who don't have stakes in the software industry feel schadenfreude.
- wildzzz 7mo ago
  The vast majority of those people are not union.