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We must be using different definitions for ‘complete’. I think Iran is using loitering anti-air missiles with IR seeking which seems to be effective. Maybe this

We must be using different definitions for ‘complete’. I think Iran is using loitering anti-air missiles with IR seeking which seems to be effective. Maybe this sudden spike is reflective of receiving new equipment from China.

ericmay 7mo ago
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- cjbgkagh 7mo ago
  I would term it; the US has air dominance but the airspace is still contested as evident by the recent losses. Also, I think the US is still predominantly using standoff munitions instead of switching to dumb munitions because the airspace is still contested.
  - ericmay 7mo ago
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    - Saline9515 7mo ago
      The us has air dominance but not air supremacy, which is why missiles are mostly used rather than bombs with gps kits, requiring to get much closer. And the US has been very keen to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure, along with Israelis, since the start of the war [0]. The US-Israelis are guilty of war crimes. The recent bombing of an unfinished bridge is another example of the US-Israeli actions, especially since they did a double-tap to kill rescuers. [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Qeshm_Island_desalination_plant_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Qeshm_Island_desalination... [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/firestorm-for-hegseth-after-reported-us-double-tap-in-iran/ar-AA202eTB https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/firestorm-for-hegseth-a...
    - ElProlactin 7mo ago
      > Yes the US probably is still using precision weapons because, well, unlike the Iranian government we don't want to use so-called dumb munitions and indiscriminately bomb civilians or civilian targets. Are you referring to the "precision" weapons that hit the girls' school?
    - bijowo1676 7mo ago
      US did murder 170 girls in Minab school, and hit many civilian targets, including a water desalination plant. Yes US is using precision weapons, but not because they want to avoid indiscriminate bombing. It's because US wants to precisely bomb specific civilian targets
      - drnick1 7mo ago
        One could argue that the IRGC, much like Hamas, purposely builds military headquarters and other facilities near hospitals, schools, and civilian infrastructure precisely to use civilians as human shields.
        bijowo1676 7mo ago
        nobody can argue that, unless you are a war criminal trying to justify your war crimes
        sapphicsnail 7mo ago
        Even if that's true, it doesn't justify killing a bunch of girls. I honestly can't understand how anyone gets to this point.
        BigTTYGothGF 7mo ago
        There's a day care center across I-95 from the Pentagon.
- pavel_lishin 7mo ago
  > I guess my definition is “US can do whatever it wants without contest” and that seems to be the case here. Whatever it wants, as long as that doesn't include flying aircraft or going through the strait.
  - lostlogin 7mo ago
    Maybe ericmay is arguing that the US wants its planes shot down?

ericmay 7mo ago

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cjbgkagh 7mo ago
I would term it; the US has air dominance but the airspace is still contested as evident by the recent losses. Also, I think the US is still predominantly using standoff munitions instead of switching to dumb munitions because the airspace is still contested.
- ericmay 7mo ago
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  - Saline9515 7mo ago
    The us has air dominance but not air supremacy, which is why missiles are mostly used rather than bombs with gps kits, requiring to get much closer. And the US has been very keen to bomb civilians and civilian infrastructure, along with Israelis, since the start of the war [0]. The US-Israelis are guilty of war crimes. The recent bombing of an unfinished bridge is another example of the US-Israeli actions, especially since they did a double-tap to kill rescuers. [1] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Qeshm_Island_desalination_plant_attack https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Qeshm_Island_desalination... [1] https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/firestorm-for-hegseth-after-reported-us-double-tap-in-iran/ar-AA202eTB https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/firestorm-for-hegseth-a...
  - ElProlactin 7mo ago
    > Yes the US probably is still using precision weapons because, well, unlike the Iranian government we don't want to use so-called dumb munitions and indiscriminately bomb civilians or civilian targets. Are you referring to the "precision" weapons that hit the girls' school?
  - bijowo1676 7mo ago
    US did murder 170 girls in Minab school, and hit many civilian targets, including a water desalination plant. Yes US is using precision weapons, but not because they want to avoid indiscriminate bombing. It's because US wants to precisely bomb specific civilian targets
    - drnick1 7mo ago
      One could argue that the IRGC, much like Hamas, purposely builds military headquarters and other facilities near hospitals, schools, and civilian infrastructure precisely to use civilians as human shields.
      - bijowo1676 7mo ago
        nobody can argue that, unless you are a war criminal trying to justify your war crimes
      - sapphicsnail 7mo ago
        Even if that's true, it doesn't justify killing a bunch of girls. I honestly can't understand how anyone gets to this point.
      - BigTTYGothGF 7mo ago
        There's a day care center across I-95 from the Pentagon.
pavel_lishin 7mo ago
> I guess my definition is “US can do whatever it wants without contest” and that seems to be the case here. Whatever it wants, as long as that doesn't include flying aircraft or going through the strait.
- lostlogin 7mo ago
  Maybe ericmay is arguing that the US wants its planes shot down?