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> even a minimal setup (1 vCPU, 2 GiB RAM, 5-minute session lifetime) would put us north of $70,000 a year based on Daytona's per-second sandbox pricing ($0.050

> even a minimal setup (1 vCPU, 2 GiB RAM, 5-minute session lifetime) would put us north of $70,000 a year based on Daytona's per-second sandbox pricing ($0.0504/h per vCPU, $0.0162/h per GiB RAM) $70k? how about if we round off one zero? Give us $7000. That number still seems to be very high.

lstodd 6mo ago
Hm. I think a dedicated 16-core box with 64 ram can be had for under $1000/year. It being dedicated there are no limits on session lifetime and it'd run 16 those sessions no problem, so the real price should be around ~$70/year for that load.
- lelanthran 6mo ago
  It looks like, to me, that someone spent a long back-and-forth with an LLM refining a design - everything they wrote screams "over-engineered, lots of moving parts, creating tiny little sub-problems that need to then be solved". I find it very hard to believe that a human designed their process around a "Daytona Sandbox" (whatever the fuck that is) at 100x markup over simply renting a VPS (a DO droplet is what, $6/m? $5/m?) and either containerising it or using FreeBSD with jails. I'm looking at their entire design and thinking that, if I needed to do some stuff like this, I'd either go with a FUSE-based design or (more flexible) perform interceptions using LD_PRELOAD to catch exec, spawn, open, etc. What sort of human engineer comes up with this sort of approach?
  - lstodd 6mo ago
    > What sort of human engineer comes up with this sort of approach? I don't know. There is that "just-bash" thing in typescript which they call "a reimplementation of bash that supports cat and cd". The problem they solve I think is translating one query language (of find and ripgrep) into one of their existing "db". The approach is hilarious of course. It's "beyond engineering" :)
all2 6mo ago
At that point I would buy an old mini PC off of ebay and just put it on my desk.

lstodd 6mo ago

Hm. I think a dedicated 16-core box with 64 ram can be had for under $1000/year. It being dedicated there are no limits on session lifetime and it'd run 16 those sessions no problem, so the real price should be around ~$70/year for that load.

lelanthran 6mo ago
It looks like, to me, that someone spent a long back-and-forth with an LLM refining a design - everything they wrote screams "over-engineered, lots of moving parts, creating tiny little sub-problems that need to then be solved". I find it very hard to believe that a human designed their process around a "Daytona Sandbox" (whatever the fuck that is) at 100x markup over simply renting a VPS (a DO droplet is what, $6/m? $5/m?) and either containerising it or using FreeBSD with jails. I'm looking at their entire design and thinking that, if I needed to do some stuff like this, I'd either go with a FUSE-based design or (more flexible) perform interceptions using LD_PRELOAD to catch exec, spawn, open, etc. What sort of human engineer comes up with this sort of approach?
- lstodd 6mo ago
  > What sort of human engineer comes up with this sort of approach? I don't know. There is that "just-bash" thing in typescript which they call "a reimplementation of bash that supports cat and cd". The problem they solve I think is translating one query language (of find and ripgrep) into one of their existing "db". The approach is hilarious of course. It's "beyond engineering" :)

all2 6mo ago

At that point I would buy an old mini PC off of ebay and just put it on my desk.