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The author conflates anti introspection and post-introspection. Marc is not against introspection, he clearly identifies that a few hundred years ago introspect

The author conflates anti introspection and post-introspection. Marc is not against introspection, he clearly identifies that a few hundred years ago introspection wasn't all that common. Marc clearly identifies as post-introspection in that there's something beyond just humans constantly looking inwards (which seems to be the Author's passtime). There's a fine balance between contemplating what to do and focusing on doing - perhaps Andreesen thinks that the balance needs to be shifted righwards. On the topic of Sigmund Freud: The author fails to understand that it takes a critical mass of people to develop functionalities for the society to meaningfully change. In the same way that Hinduism identified atheism multiple thousands of years ago, but that didn't bring any meaningful change in the society until the west brought modernism.

theahura 7mo ago
> a few hundred years ago introspection wasn't all that common Marcus Aurelius, Napoleon, Lincoln, the founding fathers, and a long slate of writers and philosophers would like a word
- simianwords 7mo ago
  You are again making the same mistake, please try to understand what I'm saying. Atheism was a known concept at least amongst some priestly class in India but that didn't matter - the larger part of the society was not developed enough to understand it. Society only meaningfully changes when a critical mass of people understand and apply a concept - in this case introspection.
  - skdhfkdjfhsjk 7mo ago
    I was clearly 'developed enough' to understand atheism at a young age, given that I was a notorious atheist at a Bible Belt school. Not exactly a viewpoint with a lot of popular support in those days. But then I later realized that there actually is a God. (No, not Lucifer.) Hopefully you will be 'developed enough' to come to a similar understanding yourself later in life. Hint: atheism is what came first. Those are the "nephilim" tribes spoken of in the Bible. "In those days there were nephilim." It literally means "people without a belief in God." Religion was a higher level development.
tgv 7mo ago
> a few hundred years ago introspection wasn't all that common Early death, however, was common. What's your point? > Marc is not against introspection One of the people cited spoke of a "zero-introspection mindset." That wasn't Andriessen, but it's rather clear.
- simianwords 7mo ago
  >Early death, however, was common. What's your point? I wrote my point clearly: not enough of the society had an introspective mindset for society to be meaningfully influenced by it

theahura 7mo ago

> a few hundred years ago introspection wasn't all that common Marcus Aurelius, Napoleon, Lincoln, the founding fathers, and a long slate of writers and philosophers would like a word

simianwords 7mo ago
You are again making the same mistake, please try to understand what I'm saying. Atheism was a known concept at least amongst some priestly class in India but that didn't matter - the larger part of the society was not developed enough to understand it. Society only meaningfully changes when a critical mass of people understand and apply a concept - in this case introspection.
- skdhfkdjfhsjk 7mo ago
  I was clearly 'developed enough' to understand atheism at a young age, given that I was a notorious atheist at a Bible Belt school. Not exactly a viewpoint with a lot of popular support in those days. But then I later realized that there actually is a God. (No, not Lucifer.) Hopefully you will be 'developed enough' to come to a similar understanding yourself later in life. Hint: atheism is what came first. Those are the "nephilim" tribes spoken of in the Bible. "In those days there were nephilim." It literally means "people without a belief in God." Religion was a higher level development.

tgv 7mo ago

> a few hundred years ago introspection wasn't all that common Early death, however, was common. What's your point? > Marc is not against introspection One of the people cited spoke of a "zero-introspection mindset." That wasn't Andriessen, but it's rather clear.

simianwords 7mo ago
>Early death, however, was common. What's your point? I wrote my point clearly: not enough of the society had an introspective mindset for society to be meaningfully influenced by it