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And CENTCOM's lying about it. https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622 https://x.com/CENTCOM/status/2039805134704660622

vorpalhex 7mo ago
That tweet is from yesterday. Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.
- ceejayoz 7mo ago
  > That tweet is from yesterday. That's when the shootdown happened, yes. > Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. Sure. We have two sets of demonstrable liars here. See, for example, the E-3 Sentry that got blown up; it took leaked photos for that to be admitted. And don't get me started on the several times in the last few months we've "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capacity and missiles and whatnot only to be told it's time to do it again.
  - e-khadem 7mo ago
    The claim being addressed is a shootdown over Qeshm island, which is the biggest island just west of the strait of Hormuz. The current CSAR operations are happening somewhere in the Khuzestan province. Probably somewhere within the 150 km radius of [1] based on online footage of the C-130 flying over. [1] 31.941606, 50.311765
- buildsjets 7mo ago
  And they have not edited it or taken it down... why?
  - e-khadem 7mo ago
    Because almost all of the people inside Iran have been disconnected for the past 35 days [1]. And believe it or not, they are texting these news live to all mobile phones on a daily basis as well. Some regime supporters believe it, because the want to believe it, they need to believe it. Just in the past 24 hours I have received 5 different messages from different organizations claiming victory and damage to US / Israel assets. Just for a quick laugh, look at the official (Iranian) president's letter to the American people published yesterday [2]. The font changes between the paragraphs! [1] https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542 https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542 [2] https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20 https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20
    - jiggawatts 7mo ago
      It’s so bizarre, they’re using “fancy” formatting with em dashes but there are extra full stops inserted randomly throughout.
- cpursley 7mo ago
  "We" Very cool that you have a side hustle as a US fighter jet pilot!
  - budman1 7mo ago
    It's known as the Air National Guard. Work for United during the week, and fly F16's one weekend a month.
user_7832 7mo ago
Hate to say it and sound so "conspiracy-like", but I no longer can trust what the current US administration is saying. Ever since the path of a hurricane was redrawn with a sharpie, it's been... unusual.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
  Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.
  - lazide 7mo ago
    Has there been a time where (after later facts came out) they were wrong?
    - j_maffe 7mo ago
      Nukes in Iraq?
      - lazide 7mo ago
        That was what the gov’t was saying was true - which was a lie, and was later proven to be a lie. Which reinforces my point?
  - calculatte 7mo ago
    Or the bootlicker olympics for those who want everyone else to ignore the constant lies because they think bigger, more powerful government is utopian.
  - ifyoubuildit 7mo ago
    Do you have some reasons for hope for the cynics in the crowd?
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
      Not really. Just that trust ain't binary and the govt is made of people. I don't like this admin but this too shall pass. Cultivate your garden. Electing bad people has consequences.
dragonwriter 7mo ago
The US military is in the middle of a top-level political purge; both honesty and competence as an institution will be below normal levels for the forseeable future, and honesty about sensitive operations during wartime is never much even as a baseline.
- junofan 7mo ago
  [flagged]
  - surgical_fire 7mo ago
    I am not from the US, so I don't really care about how it does its things. I definitely don't expect political purges on bureaucracy in my country of residence after elections, and I would consider it an extremely bad sign. Typically the new party replaces the top levels; this is expected. Director of something, secretary of this and that, minister of something else, etc. The actual bureacrats doing day to day work typically are not political agents. Getting rid of them for political reasons indicate loss of know-how, tacit knowledge, and competence, in the name of blind loyalty.
    - derektank 7mo ago
      This was also true of the US. It’s expected to replace the Secretary of Defense and a variety of subordinate secretaries and undersecretaries like the Secretary of the Army with political leaders affiliated with the President’s party. Military officers at the highest level, such as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs or the Chiefs of Staff of the respective branches, are somewhat political, but they are expected to be professionals chosen for merit. And below that level, it has historically been very frowned upon for political leadership to directly involve itself in the selection and promotion of flag officers beyond setting criteria and expectations.
  - sco1 7mo ago
    > Not a popular election where people vote to put new people in charge, which necessarily means removing the old people in charge. More than a year after they took office and in the middle of a war?
tristanj 7mo ago
No, that tweet is from 20 hours ago, and is about a separate incident which happened two days ago over Qeshm Island in the Strait of Hormuz. The current F-15 crash incident happened today near the city of Lali, in Iran’s Khuzestan Province.

vorpalhex 7mo ago

That tweet is from yesterday. Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. By their count we are down 40 f-35s, 4 aircraft carriers and thousands of MQ-9s.

ceejayoz 7mo ago
> That tweet is from yesterday. That's when the shootdown happened, yes. > Iran tweets about taking down an American jet basically daily. Sure. We have two sets of demonstrable liars here. See, for example, the E-3 Sentry that got blown up; it took leaked photos for that to be admitted. And don't get me started on the several times in the last few months we've "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capacity and missiles and whatnot only to be told it's time to do it again.
- e-khadem 7mo ago
  The claim being addressed is a shootdown over Qeshm island, which is the biggest island just west of the strait of Hormuz. The current CSAR operations are happening somewhere in the Khuzestan province. Probably somewhere within the 150 km radius of [1] based on online footage of the C-130 flying over. [1] 31.941606, 50.311765
buildsjets 7mo ago
And they have not edited it or taken it down... why?
- e-khadem 7mo ago
  Because almost all of the people inside Iran have been disconnected for the past 35 days [1]. And believe it or not, they are texting these news live to all mobile phones on a daily basis as well. Some regime supporters believe it, because the want to believe it, they need to believe it. Just in the past 24 hours I have received 5 different messages from different organizations claiming victory and damage to US / Israel assets. Just for a quick laugh, look at the official (Iranian) president's letter to the American people published yesterday [2]. The font changes between the paragraphs! [1] https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542 https://mastodon.social/@netblocks/116339631989805542 [2] https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20 https://x.com/drpezeshkian/status/2039418009052119190?s=20
  - jiggawatts 7mo ago
    It’s so bizarre, they’re using “fancy” formatting with em dashes but there are extra full stops inserted randomly throughout.
cpursley 7mo ago
"We" Very cool that you have a side hustle as a US fighter jet pilot!
- budman1 7mo ago
  It's known as the Air National Guard. Work for United during the week, and fly F16's one weekend a month.

user_7832 7mo ago

Hate to say it and sound so "conspiracy-like", but I no longer can trust what the current US administration is saying. Ever since the path of a hurricane was redrawn with a sharpie, it's been... unusual.

2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
Your comment is a perfect setup for the cynicism olympics where people rush to say you could never trust the govt.
- lazide 7mo ago
  Has there been a time where (after later facts came out) they were wrong?
  - j_maffe 7mo ago
    Nukes in Iraq?
    - lazide 7mo ago
      That was what the gov’t was saying was true - which was a lie, and was later proven to be a lie. Which reinforces my point?
- calculatte 7mo ago
  Or the bootlicker olympics for those who want everyone else to ignore the constant lies because they think bigger, more powerful government is utopian.
- ifyoubuildit 7mo ago
  Do you have some reasons for hope for the cynics in the crowd?
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 7mo ago
    Not really. Just that trust ain't binary and the govt is made of people. I don't like this admin but this too shall pass. Cultivate your garden. Electing bad people has consequences.

dragonwriter 7mo ago

The US military is in the middle of a top-level political purge; both honesty and competence as an institution will be below normal levels for the forseeable future, and honesty about sensitive operations during wartime is never much even as a baseline.

junofan 7mo ago
[flagged]
- surgical_fire 7mo ago
  I am not from the US, so I don't really care about how it does its things. I definitely don't expect political purges on bureaucracy in my country of residence after elections, and I would consider it an extremely bad sign. Typically the new party replaces the top levels; this is expected. Director of something, secretary of this and that, minister of something else, etc. The actual bureacrats doing day to day work typically are not political agents. Getting rid of them for political reasons indicate loss of know-how, tacit knowledge, and competence, in the name of blind loyalty.
  - derektank 7mo ago
    This was also true of the US. It’s expected to replace the Secretary of Defense and a variety of subordinate secretaries and undersecretaries like the Secretary of the Army with political leaders affiliated with the President’s party. Military officers at the highest level, such as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs or the Chiefs of Staff of the respective branches, are somewhat political, but they are expected to be professionals chosen for merit. And below that level, it has historically been very frowned upon for political leadership to directly involve itself in the selection and promotion of flag officers beyond setting criteria and expectations.
- sco1 7mo ago
  > Not a popular election where people vote to put new people in charge, which necessarily means removing the old people in charge. More than a year after they took office and in the middle of a war?

tristanj 7mo ago

No, that tweet is from 20 hours ago, and is about a separate incident which happened two days ago over Qeshm Island in the Strait of Hormuz. The current F-15 crash incident happened today near the city of Lali, in Iran’s Khuzestan Province.