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I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK. I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US
by pwarner 6mo ago
I hope the aviators are OK, and also hope whoever they were bombing are also OK.
I do wonder if Iran finds them first, will they treat them better than the US treated survivors of the ship sunk by a US torpedo in the Indiana Ocean?
- jacquesm 6mo agoYou left out 'unarmed'.
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- computerex 6mo agoUnarmed like the 30k *children* Israel/US slaughtered in Gaza.
- rootusrootus 6mo ago> Israel/US The US?
- C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 6mo agoYes, the US. If you are stabbing someone on the ground and I am standing next to you, pointing a gun at anyone who comes close and tries to help, and when your current knife breaks I hand you another one to use, I am an active participant in your crime. If it weren't for me, someone would have got you, or you wouldn't have done it in the first place due to caution since no one is there to protect you. US took that role with Israel, and was an activate participant in Israel's genocide of the indigenous people of Palestine.
- gambutin 6mo agoSo, by your definition, Hamas is also included, right?
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- severino 6mo agoIt looks like this figure is growing by the hour. By the time I finished writing this comment they may already be 100.000
- gambutin 6mo agoHow many do you think were killed?
- severino 6mo agoHow can I know? I don't trust either side. But talking about 20k killed, next week 30k, now 45k... doesn't seem serious at all.
- gryzzly 6mo agoyou understand how time is required to count people that were killed? check Iranian human rights org’s numbers http://hengaw.net http://hengaw.net
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- toasty228 6mo agoLmao everytime that number is posted it's multiplied by 3. I even read 150 000 dead last week
- qup 6mo agoI've heard 40,000 since it happened. But sounds like you're saying it decreased since last week.
- gambutin 6mo agoWhat number suits you best?
- bigbugbag 6mo agonot sure what you find funny about children being massively killed at an unprecedented rate by an army that deems itself the most ethical or why you conflate children killed with total estimated death. in september 2025 the number was at least ~20000, for the obvious reason that we do not the actual toll and that it is without a doubt much more. and let's forget the injured and permanently disabled, the consequences of disease, lack of food and clean water, living in permanent fear, being traumatized and so on. this is not a laughing matter. https://onu.delegfrance.org/the-conflict-in-gaza-has-been-particularly-deadly-for-palestinian-children https://onu.delegfrance.org/the-conflict-in-gaza-has-been-pa... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_Gaza_war_on_children_in_the_Gaza_Strip#Fatalities https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effect_of_the_Gaza_war_on_chil...
- pphysch 6mo agoThe "50,000 murdered protesters" is blatant atrocity propaganda to launder the actual mass murder of civilians and failed illegal regime change war by the United States and Israel. Nothing more. It is a lie told with the blackest of intentions. "Who cares if we murdered 170 schools girls? The evil regime murdered 50 gorillian civilians so it's okay when we do it!"
- gryzzly 6mo agothis just says that you believe the Iranian regime and don’t believe the western democracies, nothing else. there are names of people killed, and videos of hangings, and videos of basij forces shooting at people on the streets, easy to find. there are videos of Iranians celebrating the bombing of regime symbols – saying all of its "atrocity propaganda" doesn’t make it not be true.
- pphysch 6mo agoIt is certain that armed gangs were activated and many people (up to a couple thousand) were killed in chaotic riots. There's video evidence of armed gangs in the streets. The idea that tens of thousands of peaceful protestors were killed solely by the government, the same government that was decapitated just weeks later by a foreign war of aggression, and yet not a hint of mass uprising afterwards? Utterly preposterous, and I would be embarrassed to even entertain that narrative. It's so obviously part of a cynical propaganda campaign to justify the actual unilateral mass murder of civilians by the Trump and Netanyahu regimes.
- gryzzly 6mo agohave you lived under oppresive regime? i have. its clear you have no idea what you are talking about
- gryzzly 6mo agoGoogle "human rights in Iran" if you think killing of protesters is a lie. Clearly you are here to spread agenda. For any non-bigots that want to see truth, even if it doesn’t align with hating on Americans, Jews and the West. Iran based account exposing human rights abuses by the Islamic regime in Teheran https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english/ https://www.instagram.com/hengaw_english/ and non-Meta link https://hengaw.net/en https://hengaw.net/en
- isubkhankulov 6mo agoThe crew of the IRIS Dena were warned twice by the US to abandon ship according to a report from one of the sailor’s father. They refused. Not sure if it’s possible to treat enemies better than that. And I doubt the Iranians will treat a US pilot well. Look at how they treat their own citizens.
- srean 6mo agoCan you cite something to support this. Quite keen to read.
- asdff 6mo agoIf the source below is correct, the commander of the Dena ordered his troops to stay on the ship despite the warnings, there was a bit of a mutiny and the survivors are those who rejected those orders and jumped off. https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603071125 https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603071125
- RobotToaster 6mo agoThat doesn't seem like the most trustworthy source. >Established in May 2017 and funded by Saudi Arabia,[1][2][3][4][5][6] it actively promotes former Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the next ruler of Iran. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_International
- asdff 6mo agoIf anything that seems like it would lean American in its bias. Saudi are our allies as is the family of the former Shah.
- RobotToaster 6mo agoThat was exactly my point. The Saud regime also hate Iran for being Shia.
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- potatototoo99 6mo agoOf course I'm serious, why would my age affect how I feel about a soldier dying invading another country? But you are right that probably in the big context of things a POW is better for negotiating an ealier cease fire, which would ultimately be the better outcome.
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- culi 6mo agoA teenager? Have you heard the way American politicians have been talking about this war. They've been liberally using the word "evil" and talking about bombing nations "into the Stone Age"
- C6JEsQeQa5fCjE 6mo ago> You think enemy soldiers are all evil? If they are invading your country when you haven't invaded theirs, absolutely. An illegal war of aggression makes all the participants on the attacking side morally bad, yes. Those pilots are dealing death and destruction to people and the infrastructure of the attacked country on a daily basis, which they sneak-attacked in the middle of what the victim country thought were diplomatic negotiations, for the second time. Do those pilots not deserve a lot of bad things happening to them in return?
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- Merad 6mo agoIf you're suggesting that the US submarine should have rescued the survivors - with respect I think you don't understand how submarines work. They have no capability to perform rescue operations. They have no way to handle mass numbers of injuries, there's normally just one corpsman (basically a medic) on board. Even if they want to do a rescue operation they have no place to put them. Subs barely have room for their own crew; typically 2 or even 3 sailors share the same bed.
- worik 6mo agoThey should not have sunk the ship in the first place.
- nerfbatplz 6mo agoSubs in WW2 rescued survivors all the time until the US bombed a rescue operation and ended the gentleman's agreement. https://www.beachesofnormandy.com/didyouknow/Did_you_know_why_German_Uboats_stopped_helping_their_victims/?id=a1e562dbc2 https://www.beachesofnormandy.com/didyouknow/Did_you_know_wh... There was zero threat to that American submarine, they fired on an unarmed ship that the US Navy had just held ceremonial activities with literally days prior. Absolutely disgusting behaviour but we can't expect anything less from the Americans unfortunately.
- angry_octet 6mo agoModern subs don't run on the surface routinely like WWII subs did. Practically all they could do would be float some life boats up, but they were probably >10 nm away, so it wouldn't have been in position to deliver them promptly.
- nkbjgvnm 6mo agoI find it hard to have any sympathy for the American pilots that are dropping bombs on schoolgirls.
- hirako2000 6mo agoI don't believe the U.S military was involved with that school massacre. Reports have it that it was some Israeli missile. The U.S would sell weapons knowing full well it could happen but would never (knowingly) do such a thing. All that said, not sure there should be any sympathy for soldiers bombing any country on the pretext of some "preventive" war.
- bradishungry 6mo agoIt was extremely likely a tomahawk missile which Israel do not use. It was almost certainly the US. There are many many journalists who have written about it
- parineum 6mo agoDo you support the general rhetorical tactic of taking a single example and expanding it to the entirety of a group? If so, I assume you're also upset about the bad hombres crossing the US southern border. After all, they are killers and rapists, right?
- Ar-Curunir 6mo agoYou’re generalising from some criminals to an entire civilian population. The parent generalized from military to military. There’s a slight difference in the two. Also, remember that it was the US who declared “no quarter”, not the Iranians.
- parineum 6mo ago> You’re generalising... Yep > The parent generalized Yep