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I had high hopes for Bun, but looks like it has gone down the shitter after they went all in on vibecoding.

by phplovesong 6mo ago

gear54rus 6mo ago
Any specific links to problems? I was planning to start a new project on it :(
- pjmlp 6mo ago
  Anthropic acquisition, what do you expect as outcome?
  - gear54rus 6mo ago
    Best case is they throw their endless amount of paper at it without touching it. At least something useful comes out of this AI crap then. One can dream.
- phplovesong 6mo ago
  Deno is solid. Or just use nodejs, it got many of the features deno/bun originally shipped with. No matter how you slice it, node is still the defacto server side JS runtime.
pier25 6mo ago
it's been flawless for me
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  That's maybe more worrisome, everything has tradeoffs, if you don't know them yet, search for them :)
  - pier25 6mo ago
    It's worse to assume something is completely broken and anyone who has had a good experience with it to be an ignorant. I know the tradeoffs. For me it's way better than Node. Especially given the campaign targeting Node devs. https://socket.dev/blog/attackers-hunting-high-impact-nodejs-maintainers https://socket.dev/blog/attackers-hunting-high-impact-nodejs...
    - embedding-shape 6mo ago
      > It's worse to assume something is completely broken and anyone who has had a good experience with it to be an ignorant. About the same, regardless, truth usually sits somewhere in the middle :) > I know the tradeoffs No harm no foul then, "it's been flawless for me" certainly gave me a different impression, but I guess as long as we all find the tools that work for us.
      - pier25 6mo ago
        Well I certainly didn't say "it's flawless" :)
loevborg 6mo ago
This was pre-Anthropic but the fact that Bun automatically loads .env files if they're present almost disqualifies it from most tasks https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/issues/23967 https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/issues/23967 It makes it hard to take them too seriously with such a design choice - a footgun really. It's so easy to accidentally load secrets via environment variables, with no way to disable this anti-feature.
- rvz 6mo ago
  Damn. That one is absolutely horrific. What a find.
hu3 6mo ago
I still have high praises since one of my clients use it in production. I personally use it's tooling part which is screamingly fast.

I had high hopes for Bun, but looks like it has gone down the shitter after they went all in on vibecoding.

gear54rus 6mo ago

Any specific links to problems? I was planning to start a new project on it :(

pjmlp 6mo ago
Anthropic acquisition, what do you expect as outcome?
- gear54rus 6mo ago
  Best case is they throw their endless amount of paper at it without touching it. At least something useful comes out of this AI crap then. One can dream.
phplovesong 6mo ago
Deno is solid. Or just use nodejs, it got many of the features deno/bun originally shipped with. No matter how you slice it, node is still the defacto server side JS runtime.

pier25 6mo ago

it's been flawless for me

embedding-shape 6mo ago
That's maybe more worrisome, everything has tradeoffs, if you don't know them yet, search for them :)
- pier25 6mo ago
  It's worse to assume something is completely broken and anyone who has had a good experience with it to be an ignorant. I know the tradeoffs. For me it's way better than Node. Especially given the campaign targeting Node devs. https://socket.dev/blog/attackers-hunting-high-impact-nodejs-maintainers https://socket.dev/blog/attackers-hunting-high-impact-nodejs...
  - embedding-shape 6mo ago
    > It's worse to assume something is completely broken and anyone who has had a good experience with it to be an ignorant. About the same, regardless, truth usually sits somewhere in the middle :) > I know the tradeoffs No harm no foul then, "it's been flawless for me" certainly gave me a different impression, but I guess as long as we all find the tools that work for us.
    - pier25 6mo ago
      Well I certainly didn't say "it's flawless" :)

loevborg 6mo ago

This was pre-Anthropic but the fact that Bun automatically loads .env files if they're present almost disqualifies it from most tasks https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/issues/23967 https://github.com/oven-sh/bun/issues/23967 It makes it hard to take them too seriously with such a design choice - a footgun really. It's so easy to accidentally load secrets via environment variables, with no way to disable this anti-feature.

rvz 6mo ago
Damn. That one is absolutely horrific. What a find.

hu3 6mo ago

I still have high praises since one of my clients use it in production. I personally use it's tooling part which is screamingly fast.