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I'm surprised this news is stalling at 24 points. Everybody has to understand that even if this law isn't impacting you; this is a signal in the noise. Germany

I'm surprised this news is stalling at 24 points. Everybody has to understand that even if this law isn't impacting you; this is a signal in the noise. Germany is a major part of the industrial military complex together with the US and still the 3rd largest economy in the world after US and China. This is meaningful as it sets course for war in Europe. And for Germans it means soon to be enforced limitations of civil rights. That fits right in with the surveillance crap that is being attempted to roll out in EU (which is effectively headed and controlled by Germany).

layer8 7mo ago
The law was the status quo from the 1950s up to 2011. This is reverting to that era, for good reasons, given the state of the world.
- raffael_de 7mo ago
  no, it wasn't. old law only when defense situation. new law even when no defense situation (like right now).
  - layer8 7mo ago
    "When defense situation" was only from 2011 on: https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al28643-0.htm https://www.buzer.de/gesetz/5521/al28643-0.htm. See also the complete version from 2008 here: https://www.bgbl.de/xaver/bgbl/text.xav?SID=&tf=xaver.component.Text_0&tocf=&qmf=&hlf=xaver.component.Hitlist_0&bk=bgbl&start=%2F%2F*[%40node_id%3D%271045885%27]&skin=pdf&tlevel=-2&nohist=1&sinst=7ABBA769 https://www.bgbl.de/xaver/bgbl/text.xav?SID=&tf=xaver.compon...
- dudefeliciano 7mo ago
  the state of the world in which we keep lunging ourselves into forever wars with no end in sight?