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I feel certain at this point that the Western obsession with China beginning to warmonger is just projection.

toast0 7mo ago
That's a fair observation. They do a fair amount of objectively warmongery stuff though. All the force measuring in the south china sea, needless escorts, etc. They do engage in border skirmishes and make claim to Taiwan.
- AlecSchueler 7mo ago
  > All the force measuring in the south china sea, needless escorts, etc. These are totally normal though and it would be more surprising if they weren't carrying out military exercises at all. > They do engage in border skirmishes and make claim to Taiwan. Skirmishes seems like an exaggeration. Territory disputes are always quite normal and they haven't come close to an active takeover or invasion in almost 60 years. To describe anything they're doing as "active warmongering" seems farcical though. Where's the war??
  - whattheheckheck 7mo ago
    A man with a large bat is walking your house and youre like nah its totally normal
    - AlecSchueler 7mo ago
      Are there any military exercises which seem normal when you reduce them to metaphors on the individual level? My point is that China is not the only state carrying out these kinds of exercises. For thirty years now I've been hearing it's going to happen any day, this is the perfect moment, it's inevitable. Meanwhile the US has started multiple wars, and toppled a variety of regimes; France has toppled a regime; the UK and other allies assist in all of this. But the same countries say China is the warmongerer because the coast guard intercepted some boards at the border.
  - xg15 7mo ago
    > These are totally normal though and it would be more surprising if they weren't carrying out military exercises at all. In principle yes, but not if the exercises are literally rehearsing a blockade of Taiwan.
    - AlecSchueler 7mo ago
      Why do you say that?
      - xg15 7mo ago
        https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/29/china-live-fire-military-drills-around-taiwan https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/29/china-live-fir...
rasz 7mo ago
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-fires-water-cannon-philippine-ships-south-china-sea-2025-09-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-fires-water-cannon... https://news.usni.org/2025/12/13/video-china-coast-guard-blasts-fishermen-with-water-cannon-near-sabina-shoal-philippines-dispatches-patrol-boats https://news.usni.org/2025/12/13/video-china-coast-guard-bla...
- AlecSchueler 7mo ago
  Where's the warmongering?

That's a fair observation. They do a fair amount of objectively warmongery stuff though. All the force measuring in the south china sea, needless escorts, etc. They do engage in border skirmishes and make claim to Taiwan.

AlecSchueler 7mo ago
> All the force measuring in the south china sea, needless escorts, etc. These are totally normal though and it would be more surprising if they weren't carrying out military exercises at all. > They do engage in border skirmishes and make claim to Taiwan. Skirmishes seems like an exaggeration. Territory disputes are always quite normal and they haven't come close to an active takeover or invasion in almost 60 years. To describe anything they're doing as "active warmongering" seems farcical though. Where's the war??
- whattheheckheck 7mo ago
  A man with a large bat is walking your house and youre like nah its totally normal
  - AlecSchueler 7mo ago
    Are there any military exercises which seem normal when you reduce them to metaphors on the individual level? My point is that China is not the only state carrying out these kinds of exercises. For thirty years now I've been hearing it's going to happen any day, this is the perfect moment, it's inevitable. Meanwhile the US has started multiple wars, and toppled a variety of regimes; France has toppled a regime; the UK and other allies assist in all of this. But the same countries say China is the warmongerer because the coast guard intercepted some boards at the border.
- xg15 7mo ago
  > These are totally normal though and it would be more surprising if they weren't carrying out military exercises at all. In principle yes, but not if the exercises are literally rehearsing a blockade of Taiwan.
  - AlecSchueler 7mo ago
    Why do you say that?
    - xg15 7mo ago
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/29/china-live-fire-military-drills-around-taiwan https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/29/china-live-fir...

rasz 7mo ago

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-fires-water-cannon-philippine-ships-south-china-sea-2025-09-16/ https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-fires-water-cannon... https://news.usni.org/2025/12/13/video-china-coast-guard-blasts-fishermen-with-water-cannon-near-sabina-shoal-philippines-dispatches-patrol-boats https://news.usni.org/2025/12/13/video-china-coast-guard-bla...

AlecSchueler 7mo ago
Where's the warmongering?