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For anyone that believes Chinese labs will stop open sourcing their models, let me tell you why that won't happen. First, try signing up for Z.ai's coding plan
by try-working 6mo ago
For anyone that believes Chinese labs will stop open sourcing their models, let me tell you why that won't happen.
First, try signing up for Z.ai's coding plan. I know how to but I bet you won't be able to.
The absolute disaster that is Z.ai's internet presence shows that these small labs have no ability to market themselves and drive direct sales.
For marketing, they lack capabilities, and releasing open models is the only way for them to remain in the conversation.
For sales, they rely on distribution via OpenRouter, OpenCode etc. Interest with their users is driven by open model performance.
Open sourcing for Chinese labs is not some large national scheme. It is their only way to commercialization.
- rogerrogerr 6mo agoWell, can’t they just direct their model to do some marketing for them? Only partially tongue in cheek - if it’s not good at marketing itself, that seems like a red flag for capabilities?
- polski-g 6mo agoChina can't get good chips. But I don't understand why they can't license their closed source models to US inference providers so we can get more than 80% reliability on their models on OpenRouter.
- try-working 6mo agoI think they already are licensing their biggest models to third party inference providers.
- sumedh 6mo agoAgree, it’s surprising that these companies don’t thoroughly test their own workflows to ensure a smooth and seamless user experience.
- Alifatisk 6mo ago> First, try signing up for Z.ai's coding plan. I know how to but I bet you won't be able to. What's the issue with signup up for Z.ais coding plan?
- try-working 6mo agoyou can't find it
- Alifatisk 6mo ago1. Go to https://z.ai https://z.ai 2. Top right corner, "API" 3. https://z.ai/subscribe https://z.ai/subscribe