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$93 billion over 13 years doesn't feel like a great deal for a program that has started to align around a single person's ego, when most of the US is struggling

$93 billion over 13 years doesn't feel like a great deal for a program that has started to align around a single person's ego, when most of the US is struggling to make ends meet. I think Artemis will be cancelled by the end of the year, unfortunately. If the heat shield doesn't hold up as some observers fear/have warned, perhaps by the end of April. I hope I'm wrong.

gedy 7mo ago
We handed out 300 billion in cash payments alone for COVID stimulus, this is not that crazy especially if you factor in the knowledge and skills put to work and retained.
- g947o 7mo ago
  One is real cash going into the hands of ordinary people for everyday purchases, which has proven (in various studies) to have helped parents/families and the financially struggled. The other is "knowledge and skills" that seem remote and detached from people's lives. As someone whose life isn't affected much by either of these, I would choose the stimulus every time.
  - gedy 7mo ago
    The money was not vaporized by aerospace companies, it's largely spent in US on salaries, subcontractors, etc. Not against stimulus but to call out the amount in comparison is reasonable.
stickfigure 7mo ago
I'd rather spend it on high speed rail projects.
- zabzonk 7mo ago
  Come and live in the UK :-(
  - siliconpotato 7mo ago
    They didn't say high speed rail projects that get cancelled and downgraded after doing all the hard bits
outworlder 7mo ago
> $93 billion over 13 years doesn't feel like a great deal So, around 7 billion a year? We are at around half of the total Artemis cost just one month after the Iran invasion. One week of this war finances one year of the Artemis program. Do you think that's a better deal? Compared to the military spending, that doesn't even register. Maybe you should be mad about that.

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$93 billion over 13 years doesn't feel like a great deal for a program that has started to align around a single person's ego, when most of the US is struggling

by PaulRobinson 7mo ago

gedy 7mo ago
We handed out 300 billion in cash payments alone for COVID stimulus, this is not that crazy especially if you factor in the knowledge and skills put to work and retained.
- g947o 7mo ago
  One is real cash going into the hands of ordinary people for everyday purchases, which has proven (in various studies) to have helped parents/families and the financially struggled. The other is "knowledge and skills" that seem remote and detached from people's lives. As someone whose life isn't affected much by either of these, I would choose the stimulus every time.
  - gedy 7mo ago
    The money was not vaporized by aerospace companies, it's largely spent in US on salaries, subcontractors, etc. Not against stimulus but to call out the amount in comparison is reasonable.
stickfigure 7mo ago
I'd rather spend it on high speed rail projects.
- zabzonk 7mo ago
  Come and live in the UK :-(
  - siliconpotato 7mo ago
    They didn't say high speed rail projects that get cancelled and downgraded after doing all the hard bits
outworlder 7mo ago
> $93 billion over 13 years doesn't feel like a great deal So, around 7 billion a year? We are at around half of the total Artemis cost just one month after the Iran invasion. One week of this war finances one year of the Artemis program. Do you think that's a better deal? Compared to the military spending, that doesn't even register. Maybe you should be mad about that.