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> This isn't an accurate description of the Democrat party's platform and repeating it uncritically is contributing to the problem. I welcome your critical int

> This isn't an accurate description of the Democrat party's platform and repeating it uncritically is contributing to the problem. I welcome your critical interpretation of the existence of sanctuary cities and CFAP/California DREAM Act/related programs.

raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
Well, the city government is no more responsible for enforcing immigration laws than it is enforcing IRS fraud.
- youarentrightjr 6mo ago
  > Well, the city government is no more responsible for enforcing immigration laws than it is enforcing IRS fraud. Oh, so these Democrat sanctuary cities are in open rebellion against the party? Wouldn't it be crazy if the Democratic Party sourced their presidential candidates from sanctuary cities, especially candidates with law enforcement careers in said cities?
  - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
    What are you talking about?
    - youarentrightjr 6mo ago
      On the off chance you're sincere but not well educated on this topic: > What are you talking about? Kamala Harris was DA for SF during the early 2010s, where she explicitly backed the city's sanctuary policies. As CA AG she opposed the "Stop Sanctuary Policies and Protect Americans Act", which was aimed at deterring sanctuary cities through withholding of federal funding. In the 2024 presidential election she was the Democratic candidate. This is all on her Wikipedia page. Can you answer my question? > Oh, so these Democrat sanctuary cities are in open rebellion against the party?
      - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        Well, your original statement was “Let's not enforce any immigration law, and subsidize those here illegally” and then brought up sanctuary cities. It’s not the city or states job to enforce federal immigration laws. This was confirmed by the Supreme Court https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-denies-floridas-request-to-enforce-state-law-on-illegal-immigration/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-denies-flor... In other words your argument is prima facie irrelevant. The city or state is not responsible for “enforcing immigration laws” Just on the off chance you don’t know this…
        youarentrightjr 6mo ago
        > It’s not the city or states job to enforce federal immigration laws. This has never been claimed nor intimated in this entire thread. I can tell you're having a difficult time understanding what I'm saying. Let me rephrase it for you: - If the policy of the Democratic Party is that immigration laws should be enforced - Why does the party tolerate Democratic sanctuary cities? - Why does the Democratic party source presidential candidates who have in practice (not simply in word) opposed the immigration law enforcement policy?
        raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        > Let's not enforce any immigration law, and subsidize those here illegally And then sanctuary cities was mentioned. Whether they supported or opposed anything on the state level is completely irrelevant - it’s not there job Once you brought up sanctuary cities - you are making a completely irrelevant argument.
        youarentrightjr 6mo ago
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        raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        Again your argument is irrelevant. The Supreme Court has just as often struck down gun laws where a city couldn’t do anything about it. Your question isn’t in good faith. Desantis also tried to do something about immigration and the Supreme Court said he couldn’t do it . What part of immigration is not the purvue of state government is hard to understand? Oh and Obama deported more people than Trump..

raw_anon_1111 6mo ago

Well, the city government is no more responsible for enforcing immigration laws than it is enforcing IRS fraud.

youarentrightjr 6mo ago
> Well, the city government is no more responsible for enforcing immigration laws than it is enforcing IRS fraud. Oh, so these Democrat sanctuary cities are in open rebellion against the party? Wouldn't it be crazy if the Democratic Party sourced their presidential candidates from sanctuary cities, especially candidates with law enforcement careers in said cities?
- raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
  What are you talking about?
  - youarentrightjr 6mo ago
    On the off chance you're sincere but not well educated on this topic: > What are you talking about? Kamala Harris was DA for SF during the early 2010s, where she explicitly backed the city's sanctuary policies. As CA AG she opposed the "Stop Sanctuary Policies and Protect Americans Act", which was aimed at deterring sanctuary cities through withholding of federal funding. In the 2024 presidential election she was the Democratic candidate. This is all on her Wikipedia page. Can you answer my question? > Oh, so these Democrat sanctuary cities are in open rebellion against the party?
    - raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
      Well, your original statement was “Let's not enforce any immigration law, and subsidize those here illegally” and then brought up sanctuary cities. It’s not the city or states job to enforce federal immigration laws. This was confirmed by the Supreme Court https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-denies-floridas-request-to-enforce-state-law-on-illegal-immigration/ https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/07/supreme-court-denies-flor... In other words your argument is prima facie irrelevant. The city or state is not responsible for “enforcing immigration laws” Just on the off chance you don’t know this…
      - youarentrightjr 6mo ago
        > It’s not the city or states job to enforce federal immigration laws. This has never been claimed nor intimated in this entire thread. I can tell you're having a difficult time understanding what I'm saying. Let me rephrase it for you: - If the policy of the Democratic Party is that immigration laws should be enforced - Why does the party tolerate Democratic sanctuary cities? - Why does the Democratic party source presidential candidates who have in practice (not simply in word) opposed the immigration law enforcement policy?
        raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        > Let's not enforce any immigration law, and subsidize those here illegally And then sanctuary cities was mentioned. Whether they supported or opposed anything on the state level is completely irrelevant - it’s not there job Once you brought up sanctuary cities - you are making a completely irrelevant argument.
        youarentrightjr 6mo ago
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        raw_anon_1111 6mo ago
        Again your argument is irrelevant. The Supreme Court has just as often struck down gun laws where a city couldn’t do anything about it. Your question isn’t in good faith. Desantis also tried to do something about immigration and the Supreme Court said he couldn’t do it . What part of immigration is not the purvue of state government is hard to understand? Oh and Obama deported more people than Trump..