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In terms of ability, maybe, in terms of speed, it's not even close. Check out the Prompt Processing speeds between them: https://kyuz0.github.io/amd-strix-halo
by evilduck 6mo ago
In terms of ability, maybe, in terms of speed, it's not even close. Check out the Prompt Processing speeds between them:
https://kyuz0.github.io/amd-strix-halo-toolboxes/ https://kyuz0.github.io/amd-strix-halo-toolboxes/
gpt-oss-120b is over 600 tokens/s PP for all but one backend.
nemotron-3-super is at best 260 tokens/s PP.
Comparing token generation, it's again like 50 tokens/sec vs 15 tokens/sec
That really bogs down agentic tooling. Something needs to be categorically better to justify halving output speed, not just playing in the margins.
- mratsim 6mo agoIn my case with vLLM on dual RTX Pro 6000 gpt-oss-120b: (unknown prefill), ~175 tok/s generation. I don't remember the prefill speed but it certainly was below 10k Nemotron-3-Super: 14070 tok/s prefill, ~194.5 tok/s generation. (Tested fresh after reload, no caching, I have a screenshot.) Nemotron-3-Super using NVFP4 and speculative decoding via MTP 5 tokens at a time as mentioned in Nvidia cookbook: https://docs.nvidia.com/nemotron/nightly/usage-cookbook/Nemotron-3-Super/AdvancedDeploymentGuide/README.html#mtp-speculative-decoding https://docs.nvidia.com/nemotron/nightly/usage-cookbook/Nemo...
- coder68 6mo agoHmm you might be able to tweak the settings further. Under llama.cpp on one RTX 6000 Pro I get ~215 tok/s generation speed. The key for me was setting min_p greater than 0. My settings: ``` #!/bin/bash llama-server \ -hf ggml-org/gpt-oss-120b-GGUF \ -c 0 \ -np 1 \ --jinja \ --no-mmap \ --temp 1.0 \ --top-p 1.0 \ --min-p 0.001 \ --chat-template-kwargs '{"reasoning_effort": "high"}' \ --host 0.0.0.0 ```