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One works for money. And money is important. Ethics isn’t going pay mortgage, send kids to university and all that other stuff. I’m not going to do things that

One works for money. And money is important. Ethics isn’t going pay mortgage, send kids to university and all that other stuff. I’m not going to do things that are obviously illegal. But if I get a requirement that needs to be met and then the company legal team is responsible for the outcome. In short, you are not going to solve this problem blaming developer ethics. You need regulation. To get the right regulation we need to get rid of PACs and lobbying.

IG_Semmelweiss 7mo ago
You are transfering moral agency from yourself, to the government. Will you do the same for your kids ? WOuld you let the government decide for you whats right, and what's wrong ?
- ryandrake 7mo ago
  Regulation does not necessarily need to be about deciding what's right and what's wrong. It's about making life better for people. That's supposed to be why we have government. If they are not improving people's lives, why do we even have them? Too many people see the government doing nothing to improve their lives and think there's totally nothing wrong with that.
  - IG_Semmelweiss 7mo ago
    I fail to see how some of the octogenarians in DC, who are making a kiling for decades in trading on market moves that they initiate/regulate themselves, are making life better for your family, or mine.
    - ryandrake 7mo ago
      Because at least half the country thinks that government can't/shouldn't help them, and reliably votes for people who can't/won't make their lives better. We get the government we vote for, and too many people think the government's job is to grief people.
- worik 7mo ago
  > You are transfering moral agency from yourself, to the government That is the deal in a state based society. There are alternatives, but are you ready for Council Communism and it's ilk? > WOuld you let the government decide for you whats right, and what's wrong ? Yes, in a state based society In a state based society fight for democracy and civil rights. Freedom must be defended

IG_Semmelweiss 7mo ago

You are transfering moral agency from yourself, to the government. Will you do the same for your kids ? WOuld you let the government decide for you whats right, and what's wrong ?

ryandrake 7mo ago
Regulation does not necessarily need to be about deciding what's right and what's wrong. It's about making life better for people. That's supposed to be why we have government. If they are not improving people's lives, why do we even have them? Too many people see the government doing nothing to improve their lives and think there's totally nothing wrong with that.
- IG_Semmelweiss 7mo ago
  I fail to see how some of the octogenarians in DC, who are making a kiling for decades in trading on market moves that they initiate/regulate themselves, are making life better for your family, or mine.
  - ryandrake 7mo ago
    Because at least half the country thinks that government can't/shouldn't help them, and reliably votes for people who can't/won't make their lives better. We get the government we vote for, and too many people think the government's job is to grief people.
worik 7mo ago
> You are transfering moral agency from yourself, to the government That is the deal in a state based society. There are alternatives, but are you ready for Council Communism and it's ilk? > WOuld you let the government decide for you whats right, and what's wrong ? Yes, in a state based society In a state based society fight for democracy and civil rights. Freedom must be defended