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So it has converged to the same UI/UX as the Claude/Codex desktop apps. If that's the case, why use Cursor over those more canonical apps?

babelfish 7mo ago
Model independence
- bigyabai 7mo ago
  That gap was closed by opencode months ago.
  - babelfish 7mo ago
    different products - CLI vs apps
    - bigyabai 7mo ago
      Not really, no. Coding CLIs are hugely popular with the "App user" crowd, see Claude Code.
      - simplyluke 7mo ago
        I think that's more fashion than anything. Every company I've worked at has still had a few engineers who insist on working exclusively in the CLI with vim/emacs prior to AI. Every other engineer used some flavor of a desktop app ranging from more minimal editors to incredibly complex IDEs. I expect we land back on UIs long term.
jtrueb 7mo ago
I kinda quit using it. The tab feature is useful when making minor or mundane changes, but I quite prefer the codex GUI if I am going to be relatively hands off with agents.
davidgomes 7mo ago
1. Cursor is multi-model, meaning you can use at least a dozen different models. 2. Cursor's UI allows you to edit files, and even have the good old auto-complete when editing code. 3. Cursor's VSCode-based IDE is still around! I still love using it daily. 4. Cursor also has a CLI. 5. Perhaps more importantly, Cursor has a Cloud platform product with automations, extremely long-lived agents and lots of other features to dispatch agents to work on different things at the same time. Disclaimer: I'm a product engineer at Cursor!
- eranation 7mo ago
  Computer use in the cloud for me is THE killer feature.
  - enraged_camel 7mo ago
    Can you elaborate on how you are using it?
    - eranation 7mo ago
      Basically set it up like a developer local env, then it just runs like an "openclaw" - with full control over its own env, with a browser, a shell, access to the local DB (e.g. install a local postgres). You basically get a video of the feature, screenshots, and it can also actually test itself, like a developer, clicking in the browser to test the feature. Game changer.
- neil_naveen 7mo ago
  Is there going to be any more development on the frontier of cursor tab completion and features like that (more focused on helping engineer's with llm's for complex tasks) since I feel this is the main reason I dont use claude code or codex. I want to be writing the code, since I want performant, small, codebases that I understand (I am writing eBPF stuff, so agentic coding doesnt work that well)
- simlevesque 7mo ago
  You can use almost any model with Claude Code.
liuliu 7mo ago
Brand recognition. Since "model-is-the-service", various previously-interesting companies become thin API resellers and the moat is between "selling a dollar for fifty cents" and Brand awareness. I am not saying this in bad faith. Model companies cannot penetrate every niche with the same brand recognition as some other companies you would consider as "API resellers" do.
tomjen3 7mo ago
I won’t, but it does have a couple features Codex lags, including remote SSH (huge, because the easiest way to sandbox your agent is to put it into a VM), and the ability to kicking things of on your mobile and finishing up on your desktop (again, really nice if you get a good idea out on a walk, or while talking to a colleague. These are features I am sure Codex will soon have, of course. Then there is the advantage of multiple models: run a top level agent with an expensive model, that then kicks of other models that are less expensive - you can do this in Claude Code already (I believe), but obviously here you are limited to something like Haiku.
lubujackson 7mo ago
For $20 a month, I can plan and implements a couple features in 4 hours with Claude. Then I have to wait. For $20 a month, I can plan and implement thousands of features using Composer 2 or Auto with Cursor. The usage limits are insanely higher. Yes, the depth of understanding is not Opus 4.6, but most work doesn't need that. And the work that does need it I pass to Claude. I can code 8 hours a day using LLMs as my primary driver spending just $40 a month.
- dgellow 7mo ago
  I mean, in that case, cannot you do the same by just using sonnet instead of opus?
- bentt 7mo ago
  Yep, Composer 2 has been quite good for me too. I only turn to Opus for major brainteasers.
- zwaps 7mo ago
  My man, have seen the Sonnet 4.6 tho
- mschulkind 7mo ago
  You can do this with copilot, for the $40/mo range, AND you get to use opus 4.6 for all of it. Copilot is absurdly cheap if you can make it fit your work profile.
- georgeven 7mo ago
  the codex limits are actually pretty high too. You might want to check it out.
  - daviding 7mo ago
    Agree with that, they seem really good limits for daily use on something like Chat GPT Pro $20 account. I'm in the curious situation of using the Codex CLI within Cursor IDE and not really getting value out of my $60 Cursor sub. Plus at every update it seems Cursor seems to break more of their UI in the 'not a cloud agent chat UI' vs the more traditional VSCode sort of layout of code first. I should probably cancel.
eranation 7mo ago
Computer use in the cloud is the main reason I use them. It's a game changer. It has its own dev env with a browser / shell and can test what it wrote (a bit of a hassle to set it up, but when it's working, wow)

babelfish 7mo ago

Model independence

bigyabai 7mo ago
That gap was closed by opencode months ago.
- babelfish 7mo ago
  different products - CLI vs apps
  - bigyabai 7mo ago
    Not really, no. Coding CLIs are hugely popular with the "App user" crowd, see Claude Code.
    - simplyluke 7mo ago
      I think that's more fashion than anything. Every company I've worked at has still had a few engineers who insist on working exclusively in the CLI with vim/emacs prior to AI. Every other engineer used some flavor of a desktop app ranging from more minimal editors to incredibly complex IDEs. I expect we land back on UIs long term.

jtrueb 7mo ago

I kinda quit using it. The tab feature is useful when making minor or mundane changes, but I quite prefer the codex GUI if I am going to be relatively hands off with agents.

davidgomes 7mo ago

1. Cursor is multi-model, meaning you can use at least a dozen different models. 2. Cursor's UI allows you to edit files, and even have the good old auto-complete when editing code. 3. Cursor's VSCode-based IDE is still around! I still love using it daily. 4. Cursor also has a CLI. 5. Perhaps more importantly, Cursor has a Cloud platform product with automations, extremely long-lived agents and lots of other features to dispatch agents to work on different things at the same time. Disclaimer: I'm a product engineer at Cursor!

eranation 7mo ago
Computer use in the cloud for me is THE killer feature.
- enraged_camel 7mo ago
  Can you elaborate on how you are using it?
  - eranation 7mo ago
    Basically set it up like a developer local env, then it just runs like an "openclaw" - with full control over its own env, with a browser, a shell, access to the local DB (e.g. install a local postgres). You basically get a video of the feature, screenshots, and it can also actually test itself, like a developer, clicking in the browser to test the feature. Game changer.
neil_naveen 7mo ago
Is there going to be any more development on the frontier of cursor tab completion and features like that (more focused on helping engineer's with llm's for complex tasks) since I feel this is the main reason I dont use claude code or codex. I want to be writing the code, since I want performant, small, codebases that I understand (I am writing eBPF stuff, so agentic coding doesnt work that well)
simlevesque 7mo ago
You can use almost any model with Claude Code.

liuliu 7mo ago

Brand recognition. Since "model-is-the-service", various previously-interesting companies become thin API resellers and the moat is between "selling a dollar for fifty cents" and Brand awareness. I am not saying this in bad faith. Model companies cannot penetrate every niche with the same brand recognition as some other companies you would consider as "API resellers" do.

tomjen3 7mo ago

I won’t, but it does have a couple features Codex lags, including remote SSH (huge, because the easiest way to sandbox your agent is to put it into a VM), and the ability to kicking things of on your mobile and finishing up on your desktop (again, really nice if you get a good idea out on a walk, or while talking to a colleague. These are features I am sure Codex will soon have, of course. Then there is the advantage of multiple models: run a top level agent with an expensive model, that then kicks of other models that are less expensive - you can do this in Claude Code already (I believe), but obviously here you are limited to something like Haiku.

lubujackson 7mo ago

For $20 a month, I can plan and implements a couple features in 4 hours with Claude. Then I have to wait. For $20 a month, I can plan and implement thousands of features using Composer 2 or Auto with Cursor. The usage limits are insanely higher. Yes, the depth of understanding is not Opus 4.6, but most work doesn't need that. And the work that does need it I pass to Claude. I can code 8 hours a day using LLMs as my primary driver spending just $40 a month.

dgellow 7mo ago
I mean, in that case, cannot you do the same by just using sonnet instead of opus?
bentt 7mo ago
Yep, Composer 2 has been quite good for me too. I only turn to Opus for major brainteasers.
zwaps 7mo ago
My man, have seen the Sonnet 4.6 tho
mschulkind 7mo ago
You can do this with copilot, for the $40/mo range, AND you get to use opus 4.6 for all of it. Copilot is absurdly cheap if you can make it fit your work profile.
georgeven 7mo ago
the codex limits are actually pretty high too. You might want to check it out.
- daviding 7mo ago
  Agree with that, they seem really good limits for daily use on something like Chat GPT Pro $20 account. I'm in the curious situation of using the Codex CLI within Cursor IDE and not really getting value out of my $60 Cursor sub. Plus at every update it seems Cursor seems to break more of their UI in the 'not a cloud agent chat UI' vs the more traditional VSCode sort of layout of code first. I should probably cancel.

eranation 7mo ago

Computer use in the cloud is the main reason I use them. It's a game changer. It has its own dev env with a browser / shell and can test what it wrote (a bit of a hassle to set it up, but when it's working, wow)