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Every browser should have ad blocking technology included and enabled by default. I do not understand why Apple in particular has not pushed this with Safari, a

Every browser should have ad blocking technology included and enabled by default. I do not understand why Apple in particular has not pushed this with Safari, as they like to portray that they care about privacy. I get why Chrome doesn't, and that's why you should not use it. But Netscape? Edge? What is stopping them? Browsing the web without an ad blocker is a miserable experience. Users who have never tried or don't know how to set one up would be delighted.

MidnightRider39 7mo ago
At least with Chrome i can use ublock - not so with safari. The best browser is ofc Firefox but everyone seems to have forgotten that bc of bad publicity or whatever
- gzread 7mo ago
  The best browser is either Waterfox or Librewolf since they're Firefox-based but don't steal your data or claim copyright on it.
  - MidnightRider39 7mo ago
    It would be news to me that Firefox steals data or claims copyright on my data - do you have anything concrete to back that up?
    - gzread 7mo ago
      It was their terms of service change at the start of 2025. It caused quite a shitstorm.
      - MidnightRider39 7mo ago
        So essentially a bunch of noise that didnt really mean anything concrete?
        gzread 7mo ago
        Mozilla backed down due to the backlash. It still means Mozilla is untrustworthy.
        MidnightRider39 7mo ago
        This implies they had some sinister plan to claim all your data as theirs or something which is ridiculous - they didn’t back down from anything but changed the wording of the legal text to make it easier to parse for non-lawyers.
        gzread 7mo ago
        There is no other interpretation of changing "we respect your privacy and do not sell your data" to "we respect your privacy". Mozilla even tried to claim the old wording was bad because some governments erroneously define "sell" as "to exchange something for valuable consideration, such as money".
bookofjoe 7mo ago
Browsing the web without a web blocker for me is a wonderful experience every day and has been since the beginning. Diff'rent strokes.
lastofthemojito 7mo ago
Google pays Apple 20+ billion dollars annually to be the default search engine in Safari. I don't know whether the absence of ad blocking is a stipulation in that deal or not, but I have to imagine that if Apple blocked ads in Safari by default, that deal would not be renewed.
- SoftTalker 7mo ago
  Apple is worth nearly $4T. I think they can afford to take a principled stand here, especially considering the current mood about big tech. And I don't think Google would lightly give up being the default search engine on the dominant mobile platform in the USA, and significantly more dominant among upper-income users.
bookofjoe 7mo ago
>Browsing the web without an ad blocker is a miserable experience. That is your experience. Mine is the opposite. >Users who have never tried or don't know how to set one up would be delighted. Perhaps. "I would prefer not to." — Bartleby, The Scrivener https://moglen.law.columbia.edu/LCS/bartleby.pdf https://moglen.law.columbia.edu/LCS/bartleby.pdf

MidnightRider39 7mo ago

At least with Chrome i can use ublock - not so with safari. The best browser is ofc Firefox but everyone seems to have forgotten that bc of bad publicity or whatever

gzread 7mo ago
The best browser is either Waterfox or Librewolf since they're Firefox-based but don't steal your data or claim copyright on it.
- MidnightRider39 7mo ago
  It would be news to me that Firefox steals data or claims copyright on my data - do you have anything concrete to back that up?
  - gzread 7mo ago
    It was their terms of service change at the start of 2025. It caused quite a shitstorm.
    - MidnightRider39 7mo ago
      So essentially a bunch of noise that didnt really mean anything concrete?
      - gzread 7mo ago
        Mozilla backed down due to the backlash. It still means Mozilla is untrustworthy.
        MidnightRider39 7mo ago
        This implies they had some sinister plan to claim all your data as theirs or something which is ridiculous - they didn’t back down from anything but changed the wording of the legal text to make it easier to parse for non-lawyers.
        gzread 7mo ago
        There is no other interpretation of changing "we respect your privacy and do not sell your data" to "we respect your privacy". Mozilla even tried to claim the old wording was bad because some governments erroneously define "sell" as "to exchange something for valuable consideration, such as money".

bookofjoe 7mo ago

Browsing the web without a web blocker for me is a wonderful experience every day and has been since the beginning. Diff'rent strokes.

lastofthemojito 7mo ago

Google pays Apple 20+ billion dollars annually to be the default search engine in Safari. I don't know whether the absence of ad blocking is a stipulation in that deal or not, but I have to imagine that if Apple blocked ads in Safari by default, that deal would not be renewed.

SoftTalker 7mo ago
Apple is worth nearly $4T. I think they can afford to take a principled stand here, especially considering the current mood about big tech. And I don't think Google would lightly give up being the default search engine on the dominant mobile platform in the USA, and significantly more dominant among upper-income users.

bookofjoe 7mo ago

>Browsing the web without an ad blocker is a miserable experience. That is your experience. Mine is the opposite. >Users who have never tried or don't know how to set one up would be delighted. Perhaps. "I would prefer not to." — Bartleby, The Scrivener https://moglen.law.columbia.edu/LCS/bartleby.pdf https://moglen.law.columbia.edu/LCS/bartleby.pdf