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Worth noting that this model, unlike almost all qwen models, is not open-weight, nor is the parameter count exposed. Also odd that it is compared against opus 4
by jgbuddy 6mo ago
Worth noting that this model, unlike almost all qwen models, is not open-weight, nor is the parameter count exposed. Also odd that it is compared against opus 4.5 even though 4.6 was released like 2 months ago.
- pferdone 6mo agoThey said in the last paragraph[0]: "[...] In the coming days, we will also open-source smaller-scale variants, reaffirming our commitment to accessibility and community-driven innovation. [...]" [0] https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.6#summary--future-work https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.6#summary--future-work
- deaux 6mo ago> we will also open-source smaller-scale variants In other words, like GP said, this Qwen3.6-Plus model is not open-weight unlike the other Qwen models.
- pferdone 6mo ago> unlike almost all qwen models Almost all means there have been ones before that were not open. So, no contradiction there.
- kennywinker 6mo ago> unlike the other Qwen models Please send the download link for qwen 3.5-plus. Also, who cares? If you have the hardware to run a ~400b model i don’t think you count as a home user anymore.
- dgb23 6mo agoIn a practical sense, I'm primarily interested in small to medium sized models being open. I think that might be common sentiment. However, my hope is that there will be at least somewhat competitive big and open models as well, from an ethical/ideological perspective. These things were trained on data that was provided by people without their consent, so they should at least be be publicly accessible or even public domain.
- thepasch 6mo agoQwen3.5-Plus is the largest variant of the open weight Qwen3.5 model, expanded with a 1M context window and fine-tuned on the Qwen-native harness’ specific tools.
- sroussey 6mo agoSo the Qwen3.6-Plus model is like the Qwen3.5-Plus model?
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- zozbot234 6mo agoI wouldn't say "almost all" seeing as -MAX and -Omni models were always closed.
- cpburns2009 6mo agoIf Opus 4.6 was only released two months ago, then it seems reasonable that Qwen hasn't finished fully comparing against the latest Opus.
- jgbuddy 6mo agoWell don't we have numbers from both models on these benchmarks already? What else is there to do except include them in the table?
- cpburns2009 6mo agoDo we? I admit ignorance in this.
- Aerroon 6mo agoQwen 3.5 Plus was closed weights too. It was supposedly the same model as Qwen3.5 397B, just with 1 million context size and only available on the API and their website.